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12 hours ago, Flying Binghi said:

...I think what is overlooked here is that the ‘china’ of today is not the china of century’s past. The current ‘entity’ that is called china has only existed for 70 odd years...

China as an entity has existed for thousands of years-many times longer than Western nations. Who governs The Middle Kingdom has changed several times; the current Emperor doesn’t seem to be repeating the isolationist policies of his predecessors, which resulted in China being bypassed by progress.

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1 hour ago, cscotthendry said:

Quoting Breitbart ..... hmmm
The only thing that would damage a posting's credibility more would be quoting Qanon
Kind of like quoting The Betoota Advocate

Unkind to that fine SW Queensland newspaper!

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But QAnon has well and truly escaped the weirdo fringes. Betty Bowers wasn't kidding (Nonsense Junkies).

 

 

NYT today:

 

'QAnon, with encouragement from the president himself, has moved from online message boards to political rallies and congressional campaigns.'

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/us/politics/qanon-trump-republicans.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

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Even people who explicitly dismissed QAnon as lunacy often volunteered similar conspiracy theories. There was talk of how the pandemic was an outright hoax or, at the very least, being wildly overblown. 

 

“It’s a real undercurrent in the party,” said Jason Anavitarte, 42, a Republican running for the Georgia State Senate. “It’s QAnon; it’s other conspiracy theories. We hear them every day.”

Or as Michael Conley, 42, a Trump supporter and QAnon adherent from Hagerstown, Md., put it: “Everybody’s talking about it.”

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19 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said:

Firstly, it is unclear whether the lapotop and/or content is authentic.. You'll get a good treatment on this on the ABC's Fireside Chat, last week.. But, the shop owner is a dedicated Trump supporter, why would Hunter Biden drop a laptop off for repair at an unknown shop for repair when he lives on the other side of the country? Why was it not encrypted? Why would he not pick it up again if it had a lot of sensitive data (cost of the laptop is not important)? Why does the shop owner contradict both his original timelines and that esposued by I think Giuliani? Yet, the shop, in Delaware, is only a short drive from New York...

 

There were other things on the Fireside Chat that called it into question.. yes, people are that dumb... but at this stage, let's wait and see what the investigation shows, because even without the commentary provided, it was already suspicious.

 

Yes, Eric was a coke head, yes, he may have used the family name for his personal business gain, and yes, he may have even offered to get meetings with Joe Biden to wrangle some influence/deals - but unless Joe Biden was complicit and involved, Joe Biden should not be vicariously tarred with the Hunter Biden brush. They are different people.

 

For what it's worth, I think both candidates are short of the mark required to be president. The people of America do not have much to choose from.

Seems American Thinker agrees with some posters here that conservative websites are of “dubious reliability”

Although, the question is put that the FBI has had the info for a while now and not done any-thing about it ?

 

Perhaps there are further investigations underway.....

 

“...Several conservative news sites of possibly dubious reliability piled on, asserting that an unnamed whistleblower claims that there are videos showing Hunter sexually abusing underage Chinese girls.  At this stage, these assertions are best ignored, and I will not link to them.

Having said that, there is one serious piece of evidence suggesting that Hunter Biden's computer does contain content involving underage sex.  The FBI has had possession of the computer since December 2019.  To the extent that it contains information about events in Ukraine, the FBI did nothing.  Disappointingly, it failed in its obligation to report to the Trump administration and to Congress whether the information was legitimate, which would have ended the Ukraine Hoax, or was a misinformation scheme, which would have required national security efforts to shut it down...”

 

Continues:

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/things_may_soon_get_a_lot_worse_for_hunter_and_joe_biden.html

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, cscotthendry said:

Quoting Breitbart ..... hmmm
The only thing that would damage a posting's credibility more would be quoting Qanon
Kind of like quoting The Betoota Advocate

 

Is there something to quote from Qanon ?

 

I thought Qanon were just an invention of the media.

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Old Koreelah said:

China as an entity has existed for thousands of years-many times longer than Western nations. Who governs The Middle Kingdom has changed several times; the current Emperor doesn’t seem to be repeating the isolationist policies of his predecessors, which resulted in China being bypassed by progress.

 

If you want to flow the ever changing ‘entity’ of old china to now I’d suggest it is now called Taiwan. From the old china of despots to the free Democracy of today. 

 

The terror state that is now called china thinks its own citizens are to stupid to live in a free democracy. So much for the communist ‘ideals’...

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Garfly said:

But QAnon has well and truly escaped the weirdo fringes. Betty Bowers wasn't kidding (Nonsense Junkies).

 

 

NYT today:

 

'QAnon, with encouragement from the president himself, has moved from online message boards to political rallies and congressional campaigns.'

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/19/us/politics/qanon-trump-republicans.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

Pull quote:

 

Even people who explicitly dismissed QAnon as lunacy often volunteered similar conspiracy theories. There was talk of how the pandemic was an outright hoax or, at the very least, being wildly overblown. 

 

“It’s a real undercurrent in the party,” said Jason Anavitarte, 42, a Republican running for the Georgia State Senate. “It’s QAnon; it’s other conspiracy theories. We hear them every day.”

Or as Michael Conley, 42, a Trump supporter and QAnon adherent from Hagerstown, Md., put it: “Everybody’s talking about it.”

 

I had a look-see at Breitbart to try and work out what this Qanon was and heres an article from a few days ago:

 

“...Could anything make it more clear that this whole QAnon narrative is yet another example of the media manufacturing outrage in order to craft a club to try and beat Trump with?

 

Right now we have a country filled with left-wing terrorists in Black Lives Matter and Antifa out burning, killing, looting, and terrorizing, and our corrupt media is nattering on about something no one’s heard about or paid any attention to.

 

Nevertheless, as the Washington Examiner points out, the corrupt media are actually using a poll that proves this is all a fake narrative to push that fake narrative...”

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/16/nolte-poll-shows-hillarys-supporters-more-aware-of-qanon-than-trumps/

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Flying Binghi said:

If you want to flow the ever changing ‘entity’ of old china to now I’d suggest it is now called Taiwan. From the old china of despots to the free Democracy of today. 

I doubt the Beijing government would agree; they insist that all territory (including a vast swathe of seabed) that was once part of their empire is now Chinese territory. 

1 hour ago, Flying Binghi said:

The terror state that is now called china thinks its own citizens are to stupid to live in a free democracy. So much for the communist ‘ideals’...

We agree on that, FB. Despite all the cheerful CCP rhetoric about respecting and protecting the many ethnic minorities across China, they are doing nasty things to any group that presents any possible challenge to the dominance of the Party- or of the Han majority.

 

“Tremble and Obey”, the attitude in Imperial times may still apply.

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