Guest burbles1 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 This is really sad. Deepest sympathy to the families. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/four-killed-in-plane-crash/story-e6frf7jo-1226031105858 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JIMMYTWO Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 What type of aircraft was it? Some news sources say Cessna, others say Cherokee Six.Anyway. deepest sympathies to the families involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Media still reporting it as a Cessna(sunrise 0830) Photo is obvious, wheel sicking up out of low wing, aircraft is inverted. Piper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferris Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Looks like a low wing with retractables. Probably a Cherokee 6 as reported. Just terrible whatever type of aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Saratoga Turbo. What would the light have been like approaching 8 pm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Last light yesterday in Sydney was around 19:20hrs.(local time) News report also stated this morning that it seemed the aircraft clipped a tree on approach. But also said aircraft was 100mts away from strip. (sunrise program) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 i heard about it on the radio this morning. what a tragedy. heartfelt condolences out to all the families involved, and hopeing that the other two survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotdave69 Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 I was really shocked when i read this on the news site last night.. Condolences too all those involved and their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 News report also stated this morning that it seemed the aircraft clipped a tree on approach. But also said aircraft was 100mts away from strip. (sunrise program) I heard the same report. I fly through Moree reasonably often and use it as a fuel stop. If they did clip a tree they must have been way too low or short of the strip. It's a long way from the threshold of 19 to the trees. The approach to 01 is about as clear as you could wish for. If it was dark 05/23 is not lit so unlikely to be using it. Wish the 2 that got through it a speedy recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Swanny Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Never good to hear that an aircraft has gone in, our thoughts are with the families and survivors. I pray that the doctors have the best available equipment and they find and fix all injuries. Get well quick Guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Seven news tonight had eye witness who was sitting outside his caravan at the time said aircraft passed low enough overhead to read the 'writing' on the wing. Wreckage was 100 meters from the trees and campers at the caravan park. So if it was around 8pm it would have been just about dark at Moree then. (it's 7.45 at sydney now and it's dark, dark) Another said engine sounded rough. Wreckage looked like it had hit nose first and folded at the firewall and the pax compartment went over the engine. rough engine and no fire. (I know don't summerise). Sad outcome to a great day flying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodcom Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 This one hit a little too close to home. The pilot was in the same industry as I am, and we had worked togeather on various jobs over the years. The passengers are related to one of my employee's. Very sad to what should have been a good day out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopdangler Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 Just plain horrible.. what a terrible and sad loss:crying: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jake.f Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 My cousin is temporarily living in in that caravan park whilst looking for work out there, so he saw it all unfold. Said it was an utterly horrible thing to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballpoint 246niner Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 The Courier Mail reports today that the deceased had connections to a company called Countrywide communications, I knew the owners from many years ago- My condolscences to the families and Mark if he follows this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 The Courier Mail reports today that the deceased had connections to a company called Countrywide communications, I knew the owners from many years ago- My condolscences to the families and Mark if he follows this thread. I read the Paper this morning.A terrible loss, especially with so many members from the same family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest basscheffers Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 No need to speculate about light, that's easy to look up! 7pm local is end of civil twilight, 8pm would have been dark as. Coming too low is a common error in night landings. I would expect ATSB to initially focus on his night rating and currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 Honestly I feel for the family but i'll ask this. If they were killed and injured in a car accident, would it be recieving the same attention as it is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildy Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 was this CFIT, or was there any suggestion of mechanical problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 No it wouldn't ozzie, but that is part of the fascination of flying (certainly for the PRESS anyhow). I think we kill about 1200 per annum on the roads, ( And how much hoo hah and fines and restrictions there) and about 10,000 per year on medical misadventure with hardly a mention. The figure is around 600,000 in the states. ( 3 Jumbo jets a day).. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildy Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 the injuries suffered in a plane crash are far greater due to the increased speeds. most 200km/hr crashes are reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Additionally aluminum aircraft are simple not designed for hitting the ground. Automobiles do at least have some crash resistance designed into them...................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 was this CFIT, or was there any suggestion of mechanical problems? Hildy, usually damage of this sort results in a post crash fire. the engine has folded back under the aircraft so this will mean extensive damage to the fuel lines and in the Pipers case the silly gas percolator/strainer that is fitted to the lower part of the fire wall. There was no fire and on ground wittness commented on "banging" from the engine. Could this have been backfiring/ surging as engine began running out of fuel? At the end of flight this could be a possibility or pilot may not have selected the best tank. These models Piper can only suck from one at a time. CFIT, hard one. It was a clear evening but there should have been some reference from lights in the surrounding area and caravan park. Aircraft was also reported to be low in circuit maybe incorrect setting for QNH. This and a loss of power is my bet. Of course all speculation but i just can't help myself trying to find a cause then comparing it to the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket1172 Posted April 4, 2011 Share Posted April 4, 2011 Location: MOREE (YMOR) Date: 31-Mar-2011 First-light: 1946 UTC Last-light: 0823 UTC I don't think darkness was the issue. In my night spraying experience in the same area, you still have a horizon for a good amount of time after last light, which here was 19:23. Unfortunately, it sounds like mechanical as has been said here before. Just my thoughts. Rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hildy Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I have heard fourth hand that the daughter is doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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