Gnarly Gnu Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Im surprised that no body has mentioned anything about how the US airforce Pilots.... Probably because it is a hoax? Talk to some that were there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Probably because it is a hoax? Talk to some that were there.... There were photos of the guys taken on the bases in there uniforms. I guess to show that they were actually who they said they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yes but you seemed to imply (based on a TV show) this was official USAF policy / action by their superior officers "they were given....". That's where the myth starts as opposed to "some took...." which some most probably did, lots of junkies about. Thankfully you say they kicked out the ones they found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yes but you seemed to imply (based on a TV show) this was official USAF policy / action by their superior officers "they were given....". That's where the myth starts as opposed to "some took...." which some most probably did, lots of junkies about. Thankfully you say they kicked out the ones they found. It WAS official US Airforce Policy to issue Go/No Go Pills and is extremely well documented. Their have been court marshals based upon pilots getting too trigger happy and blaming the Pills.... US Airforce spokespeople have defended the "Official" practise publicly... It has been described as the "Gold Standard for Anti-Fatigue" by US Airforce Colonel Peter Demitry, Chief of Airforce Surgeion Genearals Science and Tech Division.... Where did you get this idea from Gnarly Gnu? They don't hide it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Yes but you seemed to imply (based on a TV show) this was official USAF policy / action by their superior officers "they were given....". That's where the myth starts as opposed to "some took...." which some most probably did, lots of junkies about. Thankfully you say they kicked out the ones they found. I said they where given because that is exactly what happened. They where given the drugs by USAF Medical personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I said they where given because that is exactly what happened. They where given the drugs by USAF Medical personnel. ...and the USAF medical personnel probably purchased the opiates from the Taliban in Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 I believe that. In war the end result is more important than the means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Have a read of this....http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/royal-flying-doctor-service-pilot-passed-out-at-controls-later-tests-positive-for-drugs/story-fndo1qgd-1226520737157 If this story is true the pilot should be named and shamed and given a length of rope and a chair. I simply cannot believe that somebody would be so stupid. (Then again, maybe it's normal and I'm too old to understand?) http://www.atsb.gov.au/media/4118299/ao-2012-147_final.pdf 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2tonne Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 From the information in the report, it would seem that the RFDS were justified in terminating the pilot's employment as his behaviours made him unsafe. However, I also feel for the guy. As a young fella I believed I was indestructible and while studying a science degree full-time I also worked night shifts and put in a few all-nighters of the partying variety as well. At one stage I was loosing the plot due to lack of regular sleep but couldn't see it at the the time. Luckily a thumping chest infection with pneumonia knocked me off my feet for a while, so I got a chance to get plenty of rest. Only after a few months had passed could I look back and see the cause and effect of poor lifestyle and deterioting health. If the pilot was suffering from regular sleep deprivation and the anxiety etc that can accompany it, it is quite likely his decision making was significantly impaired. Really needed someone else to tap him on the shoulder and say he was unfit to fly before he got to this point. Who should do this and how would it be detected? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentreau Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 It's also pertinent to ask why he was flying that sector when he had been reporting "significant sleep disturbances" for 4 days prior to the incident. What pressures did he experience that made him operate the flight rather than take a break ? Maybe his manager should have been the one to tell him to go home and catch up on his sleep ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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