DrZoos Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-16/orange-crash/5202752 Oops someone messed up big time, but uninjured which is great. A training flight has ended in a crash landing at Orange Airport in central western New South Wales. The Piper Arrow light plane slammed into the tarmac and then overshot the runway at Orange just before 4:00pm (AEDT) yesterday. On board was a 26-year-old student pilot from Sydney and his 60-year-old instructor, also from Sydney. They had flown to Orange from Bankstown Airport on a training flight. Acting Inspector Scott Russell said initial investigations indicate the trainee pilot made a mistake during the approach to Orange airport. It was a simulated engine stall and unfortunately the pilot didn't simulate and it came to a crash landing. Acting Inspector Scott Russell "Apparently, and we haven't confirmed this, but it was a simulated engine stall and unfortunately the pilot didn't simulate and it came to a crash landing," he said. "The pilot was a very experienced pilot and the student was obviously under his instruction." Acting Inspector Russell said the plane landed heavily and the undercarriage buckled. "Fortunately no persons were injured,'' he said. "They were again shaken but uninjured." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 simulated engine stall..... I take that to mean a simulated engine failure! if so! The Piper Arrow being a GA aircraft! Can a training exercise be carried through to landing? I though that flying the aircraft right down to the tarmac was stoped years ago because of accidents such as this one. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think you're quite correct Frank, but it could have been a forced landing where the student pulled it back to idle and the adjustment was out, the engine stopped, so they made for the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Another possibility, if the instructor was introducing him her to leaning out the mixture during cruise, could have been an HF pulling the level down the gate instead of pushing it up. It's normal for mixture training to be done during navs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nobody Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 simulated engine stall..... I take that to mean a simulated engine failure! if so! The Piper Arrow being a GA aircraft! Can a training exercise be carried through to landing?I though that flying the aircraft right down to the tarmac was stoped years ago because of accidents such as this one. Frank Not sure about in Australia but in the USA when I was training for a PPL it was very common to have the power pulled in the circut and the instructor say engine failure. These were always done to the ground. If you were cross country or in the training area these were done down to about 500 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Simulated engine failure in the circuit is very common - listen to the radio at Moorabbin for example - glide approaches. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 yea. Wires crossed here fells I reckon. Sounds like hes just bodged the landing in a glide approach. It happens. Probably caught the instructor napping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerin Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 My recent flying test certainly included several variations of engine failure in the circuit and subsequent landing. I also had the opposite...a throttle failure stuck at full power. You have to decide where in the cct to cut the mags and successfully land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Simulated engine failures in the circuit have been the norm for me during training and BFR reviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 They survived and that is the main thing, plane got bent, peoples pride got hurt & lessons to be learnt from the rest of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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