Started a spare parts list

[Moneybox]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

Still be worth checking the Chinese price and availability. Chances are it's the exact copy.  Nev

Good idea, where's that Rapture guy?

[danny_galaga]

9 hours ago, onetrack said:

What a joke, talk about rort of the century! Just eight cup-shaped rubber pads and eight cupped, pressed washers. They're worth about $200 in total.

See a rubber mount manufacturer, they will more than likely be able to knock them up for you.

There's nothing special about the mountings, they're as simple as they come. Their correct technical name is centre fixing isolators, have a chat to Mackay Industrial (Derwent Industries).

The main thing that needs to be established is the Duro (Durometer measure) grade of the rubber. The Duro governs the rubber hardness/softness and it's important the correct Duro is used for the application. Too soft and the rubber will chew out, too hard and too much vibration is transferred to the frame/fuselage/chassis.

 

06. Centre Fixing Isolators – Derwent Industries

DERWENTINDUSTRIES.COM.AU

 

 

 

These look a hell of a lot like the ones on the Bushcat 

[skippydiesel]

14 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

https://hutchinsonai.com/tube-mounts/

https://hutchinsonai.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Barry-Controls-2011-compressed.pdf

 

Page 87

[kgwilson]

Many manufacturers will use a standard product that is available and buy up stocks, give them their own part number and price them to whatever they like. The Jabiru engine mounts are from some other manufacturer but in Jabirus case they are not exhorbitantly priced though more expensive than buying them from the actual manufacturer.

[Moneybox]

I found this in Czechoslovakia. 

 

 

 

It's a bit more attractive than a $1000+ here. I've just sent a message to a Czech mate to get his suggestion on how to buy.

[Moneybox]

2 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Page 87

Sean, I looked at these but the OD has gone the other way. They are 47mm and the frame only has a 42mm recess to fit them in.

[facthunter]

That's in Eur plus postage. Still too dear..  Nev

[onetrack]

The dreadful European freight/postage costs will kill the deal. The only gain is, you can acquire them VAT-free as an overseas purchaser. But the transport cost will blow you away.

[facthunter]

 Just get the zonshen part using the Rotax Pn.. Nev

[skippydiesel]

25 minutes ago, Moneybox said:

Sean, I looked at these but the OD has gone the other way. They are 47mm and the frame only has a 42mm recess to fit them in.

Hutchinson Controls have a number of "sister" companies (forget their names) that supply similar products but if you contact;

 

Shock & Vibration Technologies Pty Ltd (SVT)

14/9 Ladbroke Street, Milperra NSW 2214

Phone (02) 97710444

Email [email protected]

https://www.svt.net.au/

 

they may be able to advise/help you (they are a two man operation, supplying Au military/Mining/etc)

 

[danny_galaga]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

 Just get the zonshen part using the Rotax Pn.. Nev

That's the way!

[Moneybox]

Siri says 175 euro is $221.

 

I don't think I'm going to do any better than that and I get the genuine part.

 

[Moneybox]

[Moneybox]

Take a look at this mob. With a 15 euro delivery fee it might be a good source of items from Europe.

 

http://www.pilot-shop.org/pilot-shop-org/

 

I paid the 50 euro for DHL because I'm ready to fit the wings and prepare to fly 🙃

Edited November 22, 2024 by Moneybox

[skippydiesel]

1 hour ago, Moneybox said:

I "clicked" on the address - Interesting, but no mention of engine mounts. How did you know they could supply?

 

The discerning buyer will compare supplied cost, not just advertised/ in shop cost. If you got the parts what, when for the price, you found acceptable, good-on- yah!

 

I have seen both overseas/ Au supplied cost, blow out to make that component/material uncompetitive. I am convinced that some suppliers "pad" the low advertised price with outrageous delivery charges (a rort ?) 

 

😈

[facthunter]

UPS is the worst. Nev

[Moneybox]

6 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

I "clicked" on the address - Interesting, but no mention of engine mounts. How did you know they could supply?

 

The discerning buyer will compare supplied cost, not just advertised/ in shop cost. If you got the parts what, when for the price, you found acceptable, good-on- yah!

 

I have seen both overseas/ Au supplied cost, blow out to make that component/material uncompetitive. I am convinced that some suppliers "pad" the low advertised price with outrageous delivery charges (a rort ?) 

 

😈

 

It's called Surfing skippy, you eastern states guys think that needs water 😁

 

[Moneybox]

 

 

“PAC” Service Instruction Documents provide detailed information on non-certified ROTAX® Aircraft Engine Parts and Accessories. Referenced parts and accessories are provided without EASA certification or ASTM compliance. Certification / Compliance of referenced Parts and Accessories must be completed by the aircraft OEM.

 

Looks like it's called a PAC mount so that might be a clue when trying to find its origin?

[Underwood]

On 23/03/2023 at 8:47 AM, danny_galaga said:

Latest item is the regulator/rectifier. I got a Carmo. Less wires and runs cooler.

 

Made in the Netherlands.

 

HUP HOLLAND! HUP!

 

 🙂

Hello Danny, I just bought a Carmo Reg/rec and notice the wiring diagram omits a capacitor, did you fit one anyway?

[danny_galaga]

13 hours ago, Underwood said:

Hello Danny, I just bought a Carmo Reg/rec and notice the wiring diagram omits a capacitor, did you fit one anyway?

Nope..it's a different design. It doesn't need it.

[skippydiesel]

1 hour ago, danny_galaga said:

Nope..it's a different design. It doesn't need it.

I stand to be corrected -My knowledge of electronics is virtually zero but I seem to recall that this is how the Rotax  regulator started out only to retrospectively advise the installation of a capacitor after multiple failures?

[Blueadventures]

16 hours ago, Underwood said:

Hello Danny, I just bought a Carmo Reg/rec and notice the wiring diagram omits a capacitor, did you fit one anyway?

Which model number is the one you got and have any others been using them.  Even an image would be great.  Cheers.

[Underwood]

7 hours ago, Blueadventures said:

Which model number is the one you got and have any others been using them.  Even an image would be great.  Cheers.

Hello Blue, its this one... https://www.carmoelectronics.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2276

 

I fitted it yesterday and it is working fine providing a healthy 14.4v whereas the original Ducati Reg/Rec was not giving more than about 13.5v

I've not tried a flight yet (weather is awfull here) but if I encounter any interference then  installing a cap becomes a consideration, though Carmo indicates  its not needed.

 

10 hours ago, danny_galaga said:

Nope..it's a different design. It doesn't need it.

Thanks Danny, so no problems with interference with radio or instruments without one (I use an EFIS for engine monitoring)

Edited December 7, 2024 by Underwood

[danny_galaga]

No interference in taxiing at any rate. I haven't flown with it yet. I think if it needs suppression, it's all ready built in. Like most things automotive. 

 

The capacitor on the other regulator seems to me to be a kludge. I feel the Ducati reg/rec is just not very well designed, and of course it's designed for motorcycles, where radio suppression isn't as critical. It must need some you'd think because otherwise you are causing interference in people's cars and houses as you pass.

 

There are some avionics guys here who can elaborate on the more technical matters, but the upshot is the Dutch reg/reg was designed for aircraft and so doesn't need the external capacitor. PLUS as you noticed, needs less wires. AND can't drain your battery just sitting there 🙂

 

It's the only aftermarket parts I've bought so far that was probably MORE expensive than the original. But well worth it just for the simpler and more efficient operation 😊

 

 

 

[skippydiesel]

Hi Danny,

 

Would be great if one of the electronics guru's would participate because I am just winging it - the capacitor may have an electronic noise suppression function (I don't know) but its main job is to smooth/take any"spikes" out of the charging system.