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Yes, I've travelled through Cuba. Before the embargo they were the USA's fifth largest trading partner, and the USA was. Cuba's largest. Incidentally, since US relied on cheap Cuban sugar, they increased the use of inferior corn syrup. Now you know the origin of the - Mexican coca cola is better than American Coca cola complaint 😊

 

Anyway, I think they do the best they can considering how much the US deliberately nobbled their economy. It's not the fairest system when a doctor and a street sweeper earn the same monthly salary. Especially if the street sweeper bunks off work to sell 3 peso coins to tourists. Then the street sweeper is making WAY more than a doctor.

 

On the plus side, within the limits of all this, people are free to do what they want (I even saw a group squaring up some dogs for a fight. Its not illegal. I didn't stay) and there's virtually no street crime, since there are cops everywhere. Oh, and rum was about the same price as Mexican coca cola 😊 

 

I would still rather live here than Cuba or China, but as some of you understand, the world works in many ways.

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#1 problem that I see is that advanced capitalism has shifted attention from material production to financial scams. By this I mean that corporate profits are distributed largely to proprietors instead of investing in productivity. We're all aware of share buy backs and bonus dividends which favour mainly directors and big shareholders. These result in 60% or more of profits being diverted to non productive capital accumulation. I believe that China returns up to 90% into capital spending ie. Research and development.  Advantage of controlled economies. 

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Further to my point about 'the system' protecting wealth and power at all costs, we see that Qantas, (the red rat}, was let off extremely lightly with a fine of $90m for ILLEGALLY sacking almost 2,000 workers. In another allied legal decision it was found that $180m in compensation should be awarded to workers for the ILLEGAL ie. CRIMINAL act of sacking them without good cause. Where is the commonality in this? 

Why are petty shoplifters hauled before the courts on CRIMINAL charges and yet the likes of corporate boards (and govt ministers in the case of Robo-debt) get away with a tap on the bottom? Democracy is supposedc to mean that all are equal before the law. Haw haw haw.

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Well, technically, democracy is about equal representation for all CITIZENS in forming a government. You are talking about a violation of corporate law.

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"White collar crime" in its various forms (abusive and destructive corporate behaviour, right through to outright fraud), is rarely viewed as truly criminal behaviour, but just "corporate shenanigans", all done in the name of "robust business activities".

 

If you really want to see untouchable criminals, take a look at banking and financial institution criminality, which regularly involves abuse of power, straight-out fraud, and destruction of bank customers wealth and assets, all done to protect and enhance their own privileged positions.

 

And not one major managerial figure in one of the above mentioned, has ever been charged with any crime, or done time in jail, even though Royal Commissions have uncovered a litany of illegal behaviour.

 

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21 minutes ago, danny_galaga said:

Well, technically, democracy is about equal representation for all CITIZENS in forming a government. You are talking about a violation of corporate law.

Danny, I take your point about *democracy*. Perhaps I should use the idea of magna carta. The principle first established in British law in 1217 meaning that all citizens are equal before the law. Law, in this regard, includes corporate law which provides (in theory) great penalties,  including imprisonment, to be applied to transgressors. 

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11 minutes ago, onetrack said:

"White collar crime" in its various forms (abusive and destructive corporate behaviour, right through to outright fraud), is rarely viewed as truly criminal behaviour, but just "corporate shenanigans", all done in the name of "robust business activities".

 

If you really want to see untouchable criminals, take a look at banking and financial institution criminality, which regularly involves abuse of power, straight-out fraud, and destruction of bank customers wealth and assets, all done to protect and enhance their own privileged positions.

 

And not one major managerial figure in one of the above mentioned, has ever been charged with any crime, or done time in jail, even though Royal Commissions have uncovered a litany of illegal behaviour.

 

I would add all levels of Government -  I only recall two politicians, at any level, being punished for corruption (Ian McDonald & his freind Eddie Obeid). What of all the local councils that have approved development in flood prone areas, etc. State Gov - purchasing land from mates, at many times the market value (Gladys Berejiklian et all) etc????

 

The democratic government model is supposed to be open, "transparent" yet the Australian governments, at all levels, is far from this ideal. Sure some things must be secret but this should be kept to the minimum - not used to avoid answering to the people, cover up embarrassing/unethical/criminal activity, etc.

 

Is it any wonder so many Australians have little regard/trust for those in power??

 

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 Glady's Boy friend looks like copping it . The "ordinary Person" Cannot afford a Lawyer  and have His day in court . In any case you won't get Justice. ONLY  LAW Nev

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Realistically to stop this we need to start putting some CEO's in prison (general population). We are told they get the big bucks because the buck stops with them.  Qantas selling seats on cancelled flights, banks selling policy's to dead people, Woolies claiming specials on things at the standard price. These fines they are getting are budgeted for in the cost of doing business budget.

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48 minutes ago, facthunter said:

 Glady's Boy friend looks like copping it . The "ordinary Person" Cannot afford a Lawyer  and have His day in court . In any case you won't get Justice. ONLY  LAW Nev

I think that his biggest mistake was taking on the wallflower. She dumped him into it to save her own neck. Didn't work. Macguire was following an ancient,  well worn model

 

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6 hours ago, Methusala said:

Danny, I take your point about *democracy*. Perhaps I should use the idea of magna carta. The principle first established in British law in 1217 meaning that all citizens are equal before the law. Law, in this regard, includes corporate law which provides (in theory) great penalties,  including imprisonment, to be applied to transgressors. 

Just a bit of a clarification on the Magna Carta; this was not bought about to make the peasants equal to the Lords.

This was bought about so the King could not rip off the Lords. These same Lords did not give a damn about the peasants.

 

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2 hours ago, facthunter said:

I think the poor girl was besotted and would do anything for him..  Nev

He was as shonky as f*ck. Gladys was not stupid and knew this.

What does this say about the rest of the party if he was a good option ?

 

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11 hours ago, BurnieM said:

Just a bit of a clarification on the Magna Carta; this was not bought about to make the peasants equal to the Lords.

This was bought about so the King could not rip off the Lords. These same Lords did not give a damn about the peasants.

 

Unintended consequences 

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13 hours ago, facthunter said:

I think the poor girl was besotted and would do anything for him..  Nev

Poor Darryl. Another's male falls victim to the honey trap!😅

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