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There needs to be a balance. If we teach a lot of hood flying then the pilot may think he can pop up through the soup and get on top. Not enough and he wont have any tools to deal with an inadvertent entry into IMC. That being said, the old 128 second thing needs to be chucked out. Ive never liked that style of education, TELLING pilots they will be dead in 128 seconds.

Yea, we have been telling people not to crash for years...keeps happening tho.. Maybe not enough time spent on the "dont crash" sequence?

Exactly. But 2 days after the Katoomba crash we had a "brief" stating " it was not the engine" ... Pretty speedy investigation ....

Exactly. But 2 days after the Katoomba crash we had a "brief" stating " it was not the engine" ... Pretty speedy investigation ....

Accident briefs are engine dependant it seems.

Aren't forums great. :) Good on this guy for getting it down and walking away. Thats all that matters. How people handle, or think they would handle, emergency situations such as this is really just theory isnt it. Until you have been put in the situation you cant really say with any assurance how you might react. What is good about this video is it demonstrates very well, some good flying, and also some not so good. One thing to notice is that at altitude, the pilot seems relatively calm, all control inputs are smooth, rudder and aileron are co ordinated nicely and there is no sense of "panic" ...Until, the ground started looming up. We call this "ground rush" and when it starts this guy starts to use more aggressive control inputs, and they become less organized and co ordinated, to the point where he almost stalls in a steep turn.. Its probably good wing design more than anything that kept the thing flying at that point. The point to take here is (as others have said) is that when practicing for these situations, try and make sure you do all your set up at altitude, and expect the ground rush to be there. Plan to do as little as possible during the late phases of the approach. This should eliminate the "human' element which may cause you to start pushing and heaven forbid PULLING on things!!!! Well done mate!!!

Terrible news.

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Sorry if it's been posted before. But have we seen this yet? https://m.youtube.com/watch? I like the part where the senator asks for the data, and skid more looks around to his buddies.. Have you got it? Who's got it?? Lol Sorry.. I know it's not funny..

Couldn't agree more Oscar. I hope this all gets resolved soon, but as you have pointed out, the regulator really does seem to be pinned against a wall. That can NOT be good for any one with skin in the game which could be the entire RAA community. Pretty scary really..:(

Perhaps one minute is Tooo quick Oscar? What effect is the change in the ministers position likely to have do we think? Has he been sounded out yet?

Looks like an LSA55 or similar. Wasn't that hard to break their nose gear. The later designs were much better. Glad this guy is ok. 80 years old and still pranging aeroplanes on remote desert strips, pretty good going I reckon....

Easy mistake to make. All is well that ends well :)

Hey Neil, which post mate?

Oscar, I am afraid the deafening sounds of silence are not limited to jabiru engine problems. I am starting to get the impression we are all mushrooms ....

Where's the icon for the merry go round? Yawn....

Glad they are both ok. A cold lonely night out there no doubt.

Hey mate. Jaspers is the closest strip, just north of Nowra. No probs if you want to come in. :) Forget about the navy strips.

Ross's funeral was held yesterday in Townsville. It was standing room only, and I was so pleased to see the President and the CEO there to pay their respects. A statement in itself of how much of a 'contributor' to our sport Rossco was. Surveying the accident site, talking to the witnesses, and seeing other evidence, I am quite sure the RAA will be able to provide us with some compelling feedback to the cause of the accident. Maybe not the engine failure itself however. I wish I had been able to visit this little airfield in better times. Its a fantastic little flying community there, all with the same 'addiction' to flying, much of it grass roots too. It was so refreshing to see, and very reminiscent of the early days of our Organization. I can fully understand why Ross spent so much time at this little strip, helping people out, doing maintenance, giving advice, flying, and no doubt being the sh!t stirrer that he was. There are some bloody nice people, hurting like christ up there at the moment and my heart goes out to them all.

The problem is NOT a piloting one.. It's a psychological issue. It's the way we are wired, and there isn't much we can do about it.. I've maintained for a long time that we are not training for this correctly. Ross agreed with me.

I know how you feel Hong. It's always times like this that have us questioning. But remember mate, a pilot can live more in 1 hour than many people live in a year... Maj flew everywhere he could, as often as he could . He was more at home in the air then he was on the ground.

He would slap you if he heard you say that!!

Gutted... Tottaly gutted.. Wasn't long ago I was interviewing Ross about his accident in the 80's for something I was writing fro the Raa. Dinner with him and his lovely wife and daughter... Mortified.. I will finish what we started buddy

Wow. How Bizarre. Just spoke with the chief, and it seems either some sort of control issue with the elevator, or a heavy handed student that the instructor couldn't over ride. So glad all are ok.

Lol..dirty mind!!!