Thruster88 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) I did a bit of number crunching on the China southern grob fleet that is being auctioned https://www.slatteryauctions.com.au/auctions The 36 aircraft that have ttis listed have flown 390,117 hours, these entered service between 1994-1998. A search of the ATSB data base for "grob" and separately "forced" https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/safety-investigation-reports.aspx?mode=Aviation&q=Grob Shows that nobody got hurt and there were no forced landings. There were some close calls though. 390,000 hours is way more than RAAus flys in a year. It makes me think with all the debate about what medical standard can fly which class of aircraft, what is safer, a 45knot stall speed or engines that don't quit or is it training, did they just get lucky. The Grob 115 seems like a pretty decent aircraft. Edited May 21, 2021 by Thruster88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kununurra Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Hi Thruster 88 a quick search of the ATSB safety investigations identified a few incidents with the grob at a couple of locations. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Thruster, that is an interesting set of numbers, but I would hazard a guess, that the outcome primarily relates to: 1. Certified engines and airframes. 2. An intensive level of supervision. 3. Weather and terrain conditions that are more favourable than many other locations. 4. Possibly, selection of students based on a far higher standard, than the average Joe who "just wants to fly". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_H Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 How many incidents were not reported? I flew nearby several times. Could never understand what their radio calls were. The danger zone was placed when I was active in that part of our great land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 AND A couple of them have cracks at the lower corner of the cockpit. BUT F the present bid of & 22,000, for the dearest !. Still very cheap, Then there,s the motors in a separate auction, $ 5,000 !. For an inhibited motor ! Again dirt cheap. BUT Who is paying $ 40,000 for a flight simulator? . Perhaps Not even in English !. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F10 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Isn’t this the aircraft the USAAF had a number of spin accidents with? Not recovering from a fully developed spin. The strange thing is, it seemed the Brits never had spin issues...? Looks like a nice aircraft as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 AND! l missed the end $ bids !. Anyone get the highest bid price ?? And anyone on the Forum aquire,d a nice two seater !. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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