Teckair Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Scary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDu0jYiz-v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damkia Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wow............ Plenty of opportunities to put it down earlier but he flew straight over the tops of trees, guaranteeing it as an incident whose time had come. Happy to hear they everyone is OK, but the PIC should think a bit more before endangering other peoples lives. "The 7P's", gentlemen....(military guys would know what I'm referring to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew1975 Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 He seemed to be low flying with a full aircraft with no where to put down given engine trouble. I'd like to be a lot higher before I fly over that terrain... Glad to hear everyone is ok, very lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 From the very moment he struggled to get it off the runway (which I thought was fairly obvious), he should've thought "hmmm......this just isn't working out.....maybe not a good idea". If your aircraft doesn't seem to want to leap into the air at the normal spot, it is giving you a hint that on the ground is where you should stay, until you know why. And weight, balance, and takeoff/landing performance (under the prevailing conditions) is of the same importance in an ultralight as it is in an A380. Too many people pay it lip service. I'll never forget turning up at an airstrip in PNG in a RAAF Caribou to see a light aircraft parked in an "unusual" spot. Upon investigating, we found out it had just crashed (no injuries fortunately). Why? Pilot tried, for expediency, to land downslope at a high density altitude. Missed stopping at the end of the runway by that much (cue Maxwell Smart accent). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 When I saw this I could not understand why the pilot did not abort that take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shags_j Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I thought he was maybe overweight. We were talking about this in our ATC course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 missed by 'that much'! my grand dad used to tell me when he was teaching me to shoot that an inch is good as a mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shags_j Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 They don't put close on the scorecard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted August 23, 2012 Author Share Posted August 23, 2012 There could have been a number of reasons for what happened over loaded, density altitude, down on power etc. After you open the tap a glance at the tacho is a good idea, down on revs more than a little bit abort the take off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howard Hughes Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Never really flew out of ground effect, had plenty of opportunity (about a minute) to put it down on the grass, instead chose to keep going and we all know the end result. Let that be a lesson to us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Normoyle Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I thought he was maybe overweight. We were talking about this in our ATC course. Shags, are you an ATC student at he Learning Acadamy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shags_j Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yeah Patrick, but in brisbane, not Melbourne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Just in case you didn't realise it there's an extensive thread on the Stinson crash here: http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/stinson-onboard-crash.44779/ and some of the issues have also been covered in the thread "Temp and Pressure Ht Calculations" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 44 seconds to get airbourne.. Thats 44 seconds of decision time. Even a slow thinker can make 1 decision per second. Thats 44 times this dude elected to continue the t/o. Even 13 seconds after the road ran out. The aeroplane was trying to tell him something. When the plane whispers these sort of sweet nothings in your ear, best you take notice... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Isaac Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 It was pretty obvious wasn't it, bloody lucky and what a waste of a damn nice aeroplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilotdave69 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 WOW.. scarey stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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