cscotthendry Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 This is for the idiot that did a reverse direction high speed runway beat up at the gathering of eagles at Watts Bridge last Saturday in a yellow low wing aircraft. I hope someone got your rego number and reported you. It was the stupidest thing I've seen for a long time. Doing a runway beat up at a fly in is one thing if you do it in the active circuit direction and make a radio call. Doing it counter to the active direction with no call is just looking to kill people. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Escadrille Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This is for the idiot that did a reverse direction high speed runway beat up at the gathering of eagles at Watts Bridge last Saturday in a yellow low wing aircraft.I hope someone got your rego number and reported you. It was the stupidest thing I've seen for a long time. Doing a runway beat up at a fly in is one thing if you do it in the active circuit direction and make a radio call. Doing it counter to the active direction with no call is just looking to kill people. I must defend this pilot partially.. I was in the aircraft (a Tecnam) next to take off and the pilot of the Harmon Rocket did give a radio call and tell us he was reversing direction... Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? a. Why did the PIC fly a reciprocal rwy? b. Are "runway beat ups" legal? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballpoint 246niner Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 A shame to have a " gathering of eagles" and have a turkey fly the coup- only takes a fly in and an ego unfortunately. Announcing you are about to be an idiot does not excuse anyone for being one unless specifically being an approved fly past by CASA and the organisers or a published and communicated " missed approach in the active or duty runway direction. Sounds like none of these were adhered to so well go with summary of incident No 1 I guess. Sorry Scott I couldn't make it due school commitments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 straya mate: love it or go home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I guess if you own and fly a Harmon Rocket your ego is bigger than you and the aeroplane combined. 270 knots at full noise looks & sounds impressive but do it in the right direction (after the radio call) for goodness sake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalman Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 straya mate: love it or go home PPPLLLLEEEEAAASSSEEEEEEEE GIVE US A "WHAT A D1CKHEAD "BUTTON!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Interesting thread. There were the times when we went to, or organised fly-ins just so we had a good reason to do beat-ups, flour bombing, limbo flying, engine-offs, low-and-slow, spot landings, short landings - and did 'em by the dozens, coz it was fun. Now we're so nannified that when we have a fly-in gathering we've got to be very careful to not appear to be having fun. Don't get me wrong, I'm neither for nor against it these days but I must say that "back in them old days" everyone that had enough fuel for the home trip, plus a bit, always did a 'fly-by' to say hooroo to those that hadn't left yet. In some ways it was the announcement that we'd left, because only a few of us had radios, so we'd see you 'back home' - hopefully. Leaving aside the legality or otherwise, and the questionable intelligence of doing it contrary to the circuit direction, aren't beat-ups given a bit too much negative attention simply because they are something that looks more 'risky' from the ground than from the air? When you're in the air you can see the traffic and frankly, in my 40yrs of involvement with aviation I've seen thousands of them and not only never seen a related safety incident, I've never heard of one either. I have heard lots of protests about them though. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Here are two fatals: http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2006/aair/aair200607801.aspx http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/1969/aair/aair196902381.aspx There was another one I recall in outback SA where the pilot did a beat up along the runway to say farewell and turned straight into the radio mast, killing every one on board. These are all GA, and show the hazards of colliding with objects, not having room for a misjudged aircraft response etc. Other hazards are being subjected to wind shear (many pilots are yet to experience a 50' instant drop), and an engine failure becomes an Engine Failure After Take Off, usually with not enough runway to slow down enough to land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Turbo, I'd hardly call the one with the Auster a high - speed beat up !........................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I'd agree that it's wrong to use high speed and Auster in the same sentence. His beat up started as soon as the wheels left the ground and he stayed low made a turn to fly between two hangars, and appears to ave climbed up into the power line. If you open up the full pdf report you'll see the photos of track, strip etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket1172 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I'm with you head in the clouds. ..... spot on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 beat ups are the main stay of flyin entertainment. The pilot of the harmon rocket got the attention he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 If that's the case we had better get a "do a beat-up safely' endorsement. Plenty would not know how (but that would make it more FUN) eh? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 If that's the case we had better get a "do a beat-up safely' endorsement. Plenty would not know how (but that would make it more FUN) eh? Nev We already have, it's called LL - Low Level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket1172 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Already got mine Nev..... call it whatever, it's just low level flying. No worse than an aborted landing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocket1172 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 After a couple thousand hours at low level, I am qualified to say that it is the best fun you can have with your pants on! Come to think of it, it's even better than some fun I have had with my pants off!!! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Beat ups can add life to flyin but they can go badly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Yeah. I taught low level flying years ago. My worry is that it encourages people to do it who can't but want to show how good they are, regardless. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWF Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 After a couple thousand hours at low level, I am qualified to say that it is the best fun you can have with your pants on! Come to think of it, it's even better than some fun I have had with my pants off!!! Beat-ups with your pants off can make you go blind! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Regarding having fun, several years ago I did a beat up in both directions at Parafield Airport. I flew just in front of the control tower at 500ft into wind just above the stall then picked up speed did a 180 and did a reverse burn up at full throttle and maximum SPEED in my L4 Piper Cub, I had a ball and so did the crowd except for one guy who was heard to say on my upwind leg that he could blxxdywell walk faster than that. Oh the joy of public air displays. I had to perform well because I was following the previous display which was a Sea Fury, talk about a hard act to follow. Alan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Sure, A Cub ain't a SEA Fury. You can tell that as soon as you start the engine but you can still put on a good routine in one. There was a link to a bloke pretending to be blotto in one that takes some beating. Anyone got it? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 I have seen the video but not sure how to source it, my routine was similar but I was trying to fly sober. Alan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 He was sober, or he wouldn't have been able to do it. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Landing with Facthunter in his T Jets was pretty much the same as that Cub, there were divots out of every grass verge in every State. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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