Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 This morning I was grovelling under my wing draining tanks and managed to spill AvGas everywhere. I've had fuel all over me before but now that I am no longer young and bulletproof I crawled out and went to wash it off. My hands and firearms were covered by a noticeable white film. I presume this is the TEL additive. If so, there's lot more lead in Low Lead AvGas than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDQDI Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Why are you keeping your firearms under your plane? You aren't mounting them under the wings are you? I might have to reconsider mounting rockets to my wing tip:big gun: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDQDI Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Why are you keeping your firearms under your plane? You aren't mounting them under the wings are you? I might have to reconsider mounting rockets to my wing tip:big gun: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Why are you keeping your firearms under your plane? You aren't mounting them under the wings are you?I might have to reconsider mounting rockets to my wing tip:big gun: Damn the iPad auto spell! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Why are you keeping your firearms under your plane? You aren't mounting them under the wings are you?I might have to reconsider mounting rockets to my wing tip:big gun: Damn the iPad auto spell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Mount all the Air to Air weaponry you want, SD; your jalopy will never beat a Jodel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Mount all the Air to Air weaponry you want, SD; your jalopy will never beat a Jodel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Leaded fuel is great stuff. It guarantees income for americas lawyers. Chas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diesel Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Leaded fuel is great stuff. It guarantees income for americas lawyers. Chas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Just heard from a very respected source what that damned white stuff was; a very toxic chemical which is now added to AvGas to burn off the lead so it doesn't build up on places like valve stems. We were always told not to get fuel on our skin but many of us were a bit sloppy and didn't really worry about the odd spill on the hands. This new stuff is said to be in a whole new league of nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 That crap is also in auto unleaded it's dangerous cancer producing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 My father was a mechanic as I was to begin with and I have known many mechanics around the traps in my lifetime all all handled lead fuel, fumes and exhaust on a daily basis over their lifetimes. No effects that I can see, never knew any of them to have cancer etc, although I read once that the lead attacks a part of your brain that can make you a bit aggressive, that symptom I have seen many a time but in reality I don't know if that's the actual side affect or just working on frustrating cars and dealing with many idiot owners over the years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunder Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 I would like to add old/waste engine oil is a suspected carcinogen. Always wear some gloves when changing your oil or cutting up filters. I buy the latex ones in a box of 500 and go through a few pairs when doing an oil/filter change. I now habitually use them when dealing with most chemicals, cutting fluids and lubricants, new or old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonRamsay Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 100 LL AvGas is a euphemism. It actually contains 0.56 grams/litre of TEL. 100/130 contains twice as much TEL per litre and11/145 a massive 1.29 grams/litre. So the LL refers to low compared with other AvGas not low compared with the old Super mogas which had 0.15 grams/litre of Tetraethyl Lead. And to think we used to siphon that stuff by sucking on the end of a hose! Combine that with our youthful drinking patterns and it's a wonder we have any brain cells left at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 It has a bromine compound in it to stop the lead building up. THAT is what causes the white in the exhaust of avgas operated engines. Makes it easy to pick if you are looking. Bromine chlorine iodine fluorine are all similarly active elements chemically and bad for humans, and other living things.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Combine that with our youthful drinking patterns and it's a wonder we have any brain cells left at all. We do? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 It has a bromine compound in it to stop the lead building up. THAT is what causes the white in the exhaust of avgas operated engines. Makes it easy to pick if you are looking. Bromine chlorine iodine fluorine are all similarly active elements chemically and bad for humans, and other living things.. Nev Chlorine - used for sterilising and disinfecting water - like urine in the local swimming pool and causing green hair - no probs Iodine - a disinfectant - also used for making Nitrogen tri-iodide, great for school doorknobs Fluorine - our teeth were really crappy before it was added to water. Bromine - not sure about this but heard it was added to soldiers food to de-randify them. There are of course the naysayers but in suitably quantities these improve life in general and save many lives. Anything in excess causes all sorts of problems - politics, bread, grog, sunshine and the list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 You didn't read it carefully enough Col. In elemental form they are lethal. Previously used, Some Bromine compounds are now banned from soil sterilisation. Chlorine gas is being used currently in the middle east to kill people. fluoride (compound) is ok as a trace and occurs in nature, but above small concentrations will affect bone strength and mottles teeth. These four elements are known as halides (There's one other)and are extremely chemically active and many compounds are DNA altering and cancer risk (carcinogens). Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 。。many compounds are DNA altering and cancer risk (carcinogens). Nev .. and yet with this, and all the processed foods yada yada, every generation lives longer, grows taller and stronger. I reckon stressing over this sort of stuff is far more damaging than the products themselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Stressing is no good but we are altering out DNA and it will have consequences that are severe. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 You didn't read it carefully enough Col. In elemental form they are lethal. Previously used, Some Bromine compounds are now banned from soil sterilisation. Chlorine gas is being used currently in the middle east to kill people. fluoride (compound) is ok as a trace and occurs in nature, but above small concentrations will affect bone strength and mottles teeth.These four elements are known as halides (There's one other)and are extremely chemically active and many compounds are DNA altering and cancer risk (carcinogens). Nev Everything in moderation - in small quantities, halides (halogen compounds) have demonstrated beneficial therapeutic effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Are you sure that every generation lives longer than the preceeding one. With the massive amount of obesity about nowadays I don't think the next generation will live longer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Those who say so neglect a lot of significant factors. Drugs have side effects. Genetic damage will catch up to us and have a significant effect. Pandemics lurk at any time and lifestyle factors also costing big bucks in RICH societies. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Not to mention the problems with our overuse of anti biotics, which is causing massive infection problems. All those big hospitals, costing mega bucks and built of solid materials capable of harbouring bugs forever are having a bad affect on infection. My granddaughter just had keyhole surgery on her spine. now she has Staph infection. I just don't trust those medical proffessionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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