Garfly Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Edited November 15, 2021 by Garfly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walrus Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 ......But why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 ... For beauty's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Oh come on, I love the old Beverly, quite unique really and when you think it is about the same vintage as the C130, how could you not love it too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walrus Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I was bitten by a triumph motorcycle and a Morris Minor as a youth and a Jaguar ruined me financially through its engineering incompetence then there was finally trying to fix my British father in laws rover made me realise that all British engineering transport products built after 1936 should be euthanised. The Bae 146 didn't help either although the ALF502 was a Lycoming product. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F10 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Bit like the camel and the horse…an aircraft designed by a committee! But it certainly looked like a useful transport. Personally I think the turbine engined Argossy was impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Argosies flew out of Essendon in the 70's I think with Air Express?? Pistons are much more fuel efficient than Turbo props at low levels Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F10 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) Just think the Argossy was one of the ultimate twin boomers. Yes true, but power to weight wise, the turbo I would think allows for a better load capability. Let’s face it, helicopters only became really useful machines, after the introduction of the turbine engine. Edited November 16, 2021 by F10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Lighter and MUCH more reliable than self destructing Pistons.. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) A long time ago, when I was about 16 and an apprentice working at Edinburgh (Turnhouse) airport there was, were??? A C130 and an Argosy of the RAF parked on our apron and I had the opportunity to wander through both. I recall the Argosy flight deck just about having room for the crew whilst the C130 had room for the crew, a bunk and a galley. In the cargo hold the Argosy hydraulics we’re all bonding strips and lockwire whilst the C130 had nary a bonding strip or lockwire to be seen! My very first experience of something with which I became familiar in later years in BOAC. Parker flareless connections! Edited November 16, 2021 by derekliston Spelling error! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, facthunter said: Lighter and MUCH more reliable than self destructing Pistons.. Nev Yes but no soul.........☹️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Student Pilot said: Yes but no soul.........☹️ Sorry if this is thread drift, but like the difference between steam locomotives and diesels! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 11 hours ago, derekliston said: Sorry if this is thread drift, but like the difference between steam locomotives and diesels! Agreed unless it's a Napier Sabre diesel 😜 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Think you mean Deltic ? I could be wrong too as I'm from memory. Napier probably built the most classy of aero engines. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Student Pilot said: Yes but no soul.........☹️ Herewith, a departed soul brought back with the breath of new life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 hours ago, facthunter said: Think you mean Deltic ? I could be wrong too as I'm from memory. Napier probably built the most classy of aero engines. Nev I could be wrong too, but wasn’t the Deltic English Electric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, derekliston said: I could be wrong too, but wasn’t the Deltic English Electric? I should have googled it first! As you said, Napier Deltic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 hours ago, facthunter said: Think you mean Deltic ? I could be wrong too as I'm from memory. Napier probably built the most classy of aero engines. Nev Right again Nev, the Sabre wuzza bewdy engine too! H pattern 24 cyl sleeve valve. With all those moving parts what could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Only quality made them work, They had complexity in bucket loads Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 An indignant Brit defends the Bev: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skippydiesel Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) If the Beverlys so great what about the last remaining Shorts Belfast - last seen/could still be there, Cairns Airport. Its owner, an Australian, about to recommission her. I forgot to mention - 50 were order for the RAF - the new British Prim minister, M Thatcher, cut the order down to 10 and purchased American C130's instead - who ever said politics made sense? Edited January 16, 2023 by skippydiesel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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