facthunter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Use them for target practice. Ansett staff clapped when Compass failed. Nasty. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 It's interesting how Tim Jordan simply concentrates on what a good deal they got on new 737 MAX's, that so many other airlines won't buy - and fails to mention employees, staffing levels, and staff skills. The bottom line is, getting new aircraft for a bargain basement price is not the be-all and end-all of operating a new LC carrier - it's all about building relationships with your customers - and the only way you do that, is employ good staff, pay them fair levels of renumeration, look after them - and the airline will succeed, no matter whether the aircraft are old or new. You build your business on your people, not on the equipment you're utilising. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Tell that to Qantas, and most other operators. . nev 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 hours ago, kgwilson said: Their first 3 aircraft have been named Shazza, Bazza & Sheila. I hope that the pilots will wear AC/DC singlets in the summer, flannies and hoodies for winter. Thongs for the waitresses? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, kgwilson said: Their first 3 aircraft have been named Shazza, Bazza & Sheila. Edited January 17, 2023 by Methusala Multiple posts please delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, kgwilson said: Their first 3 aircraft have been named Shazza, Bazza & Sheila. Edited January 17, 2023 by Methusala Multiple posts please delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Waitresses OMG They have to perform essential emergency functions as well. Is NOTHING Sacred? Nev 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightrite Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Remember Bonza’s A/C are leased (from a major shareholder) so they got a very good deal to promote them and help grubby Boeing get some some trust back! This deal will allow Bonza to kick off with low operating costs, airframe wise. They will still operate in the same airspace under the same restrictions etc as the other grubs so their real ace in the whole is cheap new planes👍 I know several Check & Training guys who are onboard, sounds promising 👍Fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Check and training will have to do the job properly. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightrite Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, facthunter said: Check and training will have to do the job properly. Nev CAsA have been riding the guys something fierce! To be expected I guess with a few competitors in the background watching g VERY closely! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Would THEY really know? There'd be a lack of practical talent a mile high in their ranks. Plenty of Lawyer types. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share Posted January 24, 2023 Townsville Bulletin saying Bonza will have difficulty due to overcapacity (I think). Can't read more than the headline due to damned paywall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spenaroo Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 well that didn't last long https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-30/bonza-flights-cancelled-business-viability-question/103783236 other reports are already stating the aircraft have been repossessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flightrite Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Same if they go under, legacy of a ‘protected’ industry!🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Budget airlines have been boom and bust since the 1980s. Some like Easyjet & Ryanair have survived but then their market is huge. Several startups in the 90s between Australia, NZ and Fiji were great but eventually all folded. I used to fly between Australia & NZ for $200.00 return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfGnome Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 When I lived in Ireland, I could (and often did) fly to just about anywhere in Europe for about $100. That’s the difference that a large market with lots of competitors makes. Mind you, one of those carriers dropped me in Paris somewhat later than advertised - ie 2am, long after the metro had shut down for the night - so I had to walk through northern Paris looking like a tourist dragging a suitcase and expecting to be mugged at any moment.😳 Delays are the price you pay for cheap flights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 $200 return to NZ is below cost. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenaroo Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/139669-australias-bonza-constrained-by-aircraft-availability Sounds like the leasing of aircraft was their undoing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 So is $40.00 from Brisbane to Melbourne. These were ridiculously cheap and not every seat was this price. The aim of these airlines is no frills & full aircraft and to gain customers offer super cheap starter prices. Eventually they have to raise the prices as they are losing money but their business model runs so close to the wire that any hiccups that occur, increase the debt till they fail. Often their aircraft leases are cheap when there is a glut of aircraft available but next time the lease price increases so their fares have to go up too but then the market begins to shrink. From there it is a downward spiral, sometimes starting slowly and then coming to an abrupt halt when the bank says "no more". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 If you don't fly the aircraft full you lose money every hour you fly. It's a high cash flow show with small profit margins. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenaroo Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 from what ive read the price was only part of the issue, cant fly if you dont have an aircraft. they kept changing the lease agreements, and got caught with no aircraft to fly as a result. the article i linked about their leasing issues was posted yesterday, before these cancelled flights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 My comment was "general" . Of course you can't have an airline without planes .Feeder airlines are also harder to run profitably. Sydney Melbourne is a money maker.. The number of hours/day the planes are in use is a consideration also. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 Reports one aircraft has been repossessed. All flights cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingVizsla Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 They had a rough start. They started selling tickets in anticipation of CASA approving their route, however they didn't, and flights had to be cancelled with uncertainty as to when they could fly. Approval took longer than anticipated and the media placed the blame on the airline. The delays meant they had staff and aircraft sitting idle. Then loss of public confidence. They recently topped the list for on-time flights. Friends who flew with them loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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