red750 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 From Western Sydney International Airport Facebook page:- Today we have joined iconic airports around the world like LAX, JFK and LHR by securing our own three letter IATA code, WSI! ✈️ This code will appear on tickets, on airline bookings and bag tags around the world. 2026 isn't too far away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkennard Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Would love to see what they are doing with the airspace. I have read about approaches but wonder if we will have vfr lanes or what happens to camden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Bloody morons! They are calling the place Nancy Bird-Walton Airport. Didn't do any research. Nancy never, never , never hyphenated Bird Walton. Oh! and the ICAO code for this airport is SWZ. From a 2015 assessment of airspace during airport planning: Admittedly, is says nothing about transit lanes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 And were Is that Y . Is Badjery going to be the only airport without that WHY . spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 It will 8 Octas aircraft ABV 500 ft all over Sydney. Brave new world. This airport should have been sited near Newcastle with a high speed train between the two.. The value of that land for other purposes would be enormous Sydney was always trapped between the sea and the mountains and fairly flat land is scarce. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, spacesailor said: And were Is that Y . OK. But you knew what would be correct. The beauty of Western Sydney Airport is that it has, in fact, saved a lot of land from going under tar and cement. Fear not! In ten years there will be houses right up to the boundary fences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon Canary Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Well, Gough was going to site the airport at Galston. Sydney folk best know Galston for its very deep gorge. A rather difficult spot to build an international airport - but that was the state of politics at the time. That aside, flying school operators at Bankstown and Camden have been pleading for airspace design detail since WSI was just a thought bubble. I’m predicting some form of VFR lane east to west over the top of WSI will be required for traffic to get over the Blue Mountains. Bathurst / Orange being a routine nav exercise for students. Realistically, following the narrow ‘gap’ through Katoomba limits the amount of serious tiger country between the coastal strip and the western plains. The Bankstown and Camden training area may be pushed further south meaning the transit time for Bankstown traffic will get even more expensive for students. Training further south may start to impinge on Mittagong (which just got some Federal grant money), but it’s usually fairly quiet. Shellharbour (Wollongong) however, has already got crazy busy on the weekends. ADS-B is really proving its worth. Interestingly, to the north, Warnervale on the Central Coast is also booming and also just won aero club of the year. All credit to them, and Bankstown’s loss will be their gain. If RA-Aus does ever get C and D airspace access, let the fun in the Sydney basin really begin ! Oh, and of course everyone knows there has already been a landing at WSI……..about a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Those type of OPS will have to go further afield. It's just a massive increase of what Sydney area has had to deal with all along. That area is also Hotter in summer and colder in winter than Kingsford Smith and there's no clear uninhabited area to the east. It will deal another blow to Sydney's "Quality of Life" and probably be seen that way soon after it opens. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 What until the environmentalists get woke to aircraft exhaust emissions precipitating on the catchment of Warragamba Dam. They'll drive out from the Eastern Suburbs in their Double Bay Deutzs and surround the place waving protest signs made of recycled cardboard packaging that came from China. I really can't see pilot training being based at Bankstown ten years from now. The current holders of the Head Lease seem Hell bent on forcing training and private aviation away, and at the same time forcing the closure of aviation support facilities. The same organisation holds the lease on Camden and did have it on Hoxton Park before they turned that into a business park, or more accurately, warehousing for products we don't make here anymore. So they are not likely to spend money on building hangars, workshops and schools at Camden. Even if they did, they will ask for rents commensurate with commercial sites at Circular Quay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 4, 2023 Author Share Posted March 4, 2023 They couldn't allocate YSWI, thats's already taken by Swan Island Tas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 It could have been YNBW. The only other YNB* is Narrabri, "Y" being the identifier for Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Should hsve kept the ' original ' name of the area , Mr Badgery was an avid ultralight enthusiasts. So his name is appropriate to the airport . YBCI spacesailor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Well, the airport is being built on Badgery family land. July 18, 1914, was one of the most significant days in Australian aviation. It was the first flight of the first Australian-built aircraft. Andrew Delfosse Badgery was the first man to fly an Australian-made plane, which he built himself on the family farm at Badgerys Creek. Well, not quite so true. The plane was a Caudron Type 2B. Most likely he brought the plans for the airplane with him when he returned from Europe just before WW1. So the correct description is that it was the first made-in-Australia aeroplane. The Caudron Type B2 was a 1911 design. It is said that the Caudron brothers built only two, so Badgery must just have had the plans. The pictures show that he powered it with an Anzani 6-cylinder radial of 60 hp. COP THAT, RED! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 On 3/3/2023 at 11:22 AM, facthunter said: It will 8 Octas aircraft ABV 500 ft all over Sydney. Brave new world. This airport should have been sited near Newcastle with a high speed train between the two… A great idea Nev, but this is Australia: where stupid decisions are endemic. Very fast trains are the way to go, almost everyone is building them, except us. Even Africa has a TGV (Morocco), but I doubt Australia will ever get one. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/03/nsw-government-slams-brakes-on-high-speed-rail-plans-after-spending-100m-on-studies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 New South Wales is a political unit on the east coast of the continent of Australia. It extends from the Port Hacking River in the south to the mouth of the Hawkesbury River in the north, and from the coastline in the east to the eastern bank of the Nepean River in the west. There is an extensive area beyond these bounds - a political No-Man's Land - that has tenuous ties to New South Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 NSW= Newcastle, Sydney, Wollongong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon Canary Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 What exists beyond them thar hills ?? Unknown 210 years ago, rarely known today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Carbon Canary said: What exists beyond them thar hills ?? Unknown 210 years ago, rarely known today. …Until we electedindependents like Tony Windors who have the deciding vote in hung parliaments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Daniel Andrews used to call Turnbull the PM of SYDNEY. There's ONLY Sydney OR the BUSH. It's a Great Harbour. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Settle down you lot, take a deep breath and relax. Expecting common sense from those who control aviation is castles in the sky. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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