Light plane crashes onto freeway Italy 23/7/25

[red750]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/italy-plane-crash-breaking-shocking-moment-small-aircraft-crashes-plunges-onto-busy-highway-2-dead/vi-AA1J9Ncr

 

[Thruster88]

Easily avoided by not stalling the aircraft.

[facthunter]

Not stalled in a vertical dive.  Nev

[Marty_d]

Imagine being in that car that drove straight through the fireball in the second after it hit. 

[BrendAn]

17 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Not stalled in a vertical dive.  Nev

bet it started with a stall as thruster said

[facthunter]

Once it's unstalled why not try to recover? As speed builds up the nose attempts to rise anyhow. You'd have to force it to stay in a vertical dive.  Nev

[Thruster88]

2 hours ago, facthunter said:

Not stalled in a vertical dive.  Nev

If you look carefully the aircraft is rotating so most likely in a spin, to spin one must first stall yes?

[facthunter]

Most likely rolling about it's own axis just building up speed.. In a spin the speed remains constant..  Nev

[Thruster88]

48 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Most likely rolling about it's own axis just building up speed.. In a spin the speed remains constant..  Nev

Whatever 

 

[Thruster88]

The aircraft in question is a Promecc Freccia RG. It is a European "ultralight " Mtow 472kg. The specs show a cruise speed of 140knots and a stall of only 35knots. 35 knots is a maximum for the class..... 

[onetrack]

Highly likely to be a stall-spin crash, the simple event that kills a lot unwary or unskilled pilots. This young bloke presents a good, thoughtful video, on how to be aware of the important link between stall and spin.

 

 

[facthunter]

I've done Plenty of spins and aeros and taught both. IF I had to guess I'd say it's a medical event, I've also watched the  vid about a dozen times. ALSO planes don't stall by themselves. It's a perfectly fine day. There's no evidence of any control application.  The Plane is so close to being vertical  there's no difference. Nev

[onetrack]

It could also have easily been unauthorised aerobatics that got out of hand. I can't find any flight tests of the aircraft in English, but I found one in French. These fast European "plastic fantastics" can have some nasty "bites" in their handling.

[red750]

From a report by The Mirror:

 

Two people onboard the aircraft, a 75-year-old lawyer from Milan named Sergio Ravaglia and his female partner Anna Maria De Stefano, 50, are reported to have died.

[facthunter]

Any of that would be pretty visible in ITALY.  The silly tail is just for looks, like a lot of this stuff.  Rich people's toys.. Nev

[BrendAn]

1 hour ago, red750 said:

From a report by The Mirror:

 

Two people onboard the aircraft, a 75-year-old lawyer from Milan named Sergio Ravaglia and his female partner Anna Maria De Stefano, 50, are reported to have died.

It would be surprising if they were alive