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I have read the Proserpine (Whitsunday Coast Airport) screed here https://www.whitsunday.qld.gov.au/DocumentCenter/View/2846 Read it. What they ask is not onerous. Non VH aircraft (RAA, hang gliders, etc and foreign aircraft), Prior Permission is required & are not to operate for half an hour before or after jet RPT aircraft. Landing fees apply. The rest is simply - comply with CASA regulations. Prior Permission might be to make sure you are aware of when RPTs are due. When I see something like this I think "Who messed up that caused them to put this in writing?" Has anyone actually asked Prior Permission and been refused?

Ignore them Planet - I have been following your build and like what I see. Good on you for doing it and posting photos. Ignore the Egos, Thread Drifters and Knockers - just show me pics. Sue

There's a coming weight increase for RAA, been talked about for ages, and should be here "soon". Up to 760kg (Cessna 150's) rumoured up to 1500kg - taking in the RPL. ELAAA Pty Ltd announced - ELAAA is offering a service for Fixed Wing and Rotary Wing Aircraft at a MTOW of up to 760 kg. Flying training to RPL level with a CTA operations endorsement is planned for the FTF’s that join us. Our CFI instructors will be to the standard of being able to instruct on basic instrument flight requirements. This allows students wishing to make flying a career the ability to transition to GA Licencing. Presumably you can transition from GA to their licence / certificate. They are not approved yet, was to be 7 Oct 2016, but now talk of Feb 2017. They were also talking of a weight increase to 1500kg MTOW with 2 POB. There might be scope for a Piper / Cessna under either body.

If you have a read of the Training Syllabus - the Advanced Pilot covers things in more detail and to a higher standard. The scoring to achieve a tick is on a scale of 5 to 1. In a nutshell 5 - needs further instruction (can't proceed), 4 - needs practice, 3 - pre solo standard, 2 Pilot Certificate standard, 1 competent to teach. It's an award for pilots seeking higher skills at a higher level. No one if forcing us to do it.

From the Ops Manual:- ADVANCED PILOT AWARD ENDORSEMENT (APA) 13. An applicant for the issue of an Advanced Pilot Award must: (a) have reached the competency standards required under Unit 1.07 of the RA-Aus Syllabus of Flight Training; and (b) be recommended by an RA-Aus Examiner to undergo the flight test for issue of the endorsement; and © pass a flight test conducted by a Pilot Examiner or a CFI. ------- The following is a summary - to read the full 7 pages, go to RAA.asn.au - log into the members' portal, search for "RA-Aus Syllabus of Flight Training" A pdf will open - go to page 59. All the requirements are there. ------- SYLLABUS OF FLIGHT TRAINING - ISSUE 7 – OCTOBER 2014 UNIT 1.07 – ADVANCED PILOT AWARD SYLLABUS 1. AIRMANSHIP 1.1 General Airmanship 2. TAKE-OFF SAFETY BRIEF 2.1 Engine failure safety brief 3. STEEP LAZY EIGHTS 3.1 Entry 3.2 Maintenance 3.3 Airmanship 4. MAINTAIN BALANCED FLIGHT 4.1 Co-ordination 5. STEEP 360 DEGREE GLIDING TURNS 5.1 Entry 5.2 Maintenance 5.3 Exit 6. SIDESLIPPING 6.1 Entry 6.2 Maintenance 6.3 Exit 7. SLIPPING TURNS 7.1 Entry 7.2 Maintenance 7.3 Exit 8. PRE-STALL RECOGNITION AND RECOVERY IN A CLIMBING TURN 8.1 Entry 8.2 Maintenance 8.3 Exit 9.PRE-STALL RECOGNITION AND RECOVERY FROM A STEEP GLIDING TURN 9.1 Entry 9.2 Maintenance 9.3 Exit 10. GROUND REFERENCE MANOEUVRES (Constant Altitude/Radius Turns) 10.1 Entry 10.2 Maintenance 10.3 Exit 11. GLIDE FROM OVERHEAD THE FIELD 11.1 Aeroplane positioning 11.2 Glide 11.3 Touchdown point nominated 11.4 Lookout 12. CROSSWIND TAKE-OFF AND LANDING 12.1 Take-off 12.2 Circuit 12.3 Approach 12.4 Lookout 13. SHORT FIELD APPROACH 13.1 Pre-Landing Checks 13.2 Airspeed maintenance 13.3 Use of Power 13.4 Touchdown Point 14. WEIGHT AND BALANCE 14.1 Loading, and Weight and Balance 15. PERFORMANCE FIGURES 15.1 MTOW 15.2 Normal Approach 15.3 Vs 15.4 Va 15.5 Vne 15.6 Short Field Approach Speed

Yes Ollie, great place to learn about flying! Whatever you want, someone has flown it, whatever question you ask, there's an answer.... Lots of good stuff hidden away, apart from the forums, there's tutorials, resources (like plain English translations for weather), planes for sale, and the best laughter around. Sue

(Posted this earlier but it never appeared - apologies if it turns up twice) Except for the very early days - the rego number was unique eg 1234, regardless of the prefix eg 10-1234 but no 19-1234, 32-1234 etc. So in theory an aircraft could be moved to another category eg 24E-1234, 19-1234 (as happened with factory built and later de-registered and re-categorised planes like the Ibis). However, in the early days of the AUF they issued the same number with different prefixes. Most of these problems have been retired, but it is possible to find 10-1234 & 19-1234. Our Wheeler Scout had its number changed, possibly in an attempt to get a unique number, or maybe just an administrative mistake. Remember, in the early days, the AUF was run by volunteers who probably didn't have much time and didn't envisage how big the fleet would become, or the advent of computer databases. There is a long thread about how 10-0001 got hijacked, if you want to search for it. A brief thread here Sequential Aircraft Rego Numbers Sue

I asked the same question on behalf of a friend who had let his RAA registration, membership & certificate lapse due to medical reasons, but wanted to put the aircraft back on the register to get it sold. This was the response from tech at RAA "You don't need to be a member to register an aircraft, we have many aircraft owners who do not fly their aircraft but wish to be the listed owner on our database."

Old Pilot - the initial discussion on this forum is here walget plane accident The discussion on pprune forum doesn't add anything of substance. Unless you can find someone who witnessed the accident, then we will have to wait for the ATSB report to finalise, or the coroner's report - usually not available to the public, but would be available to the next of kin and probably a year away.

Is this him? THE DAILY TELEGRAPH TRIBUTES WILHELMI, Troy Tragically taken from us on the 5th November, 2016, aged 46. A loving & devoted husband, father, son, brother, uncle and friend. In His Saviour's Arms Family & friends of TROY are warmly invited to attend his Funeral Service to be held at St John's Anglican Church, Menangle Road, Camden on Monday, 21st November, 2016 commencing at 2pm. In lieu of floral tributes please consider a donation to the Wilhelmi's children's education. You can contact Narelle on 0410-564-733. ATSB report Investigation: AO-2016-146 - Collision with terrain involving Air Tractor AT-502, VH-LIK, near Walgett, NSW on 5 November 2016 The ATSB is investigating a fatal aircraft accident involving an Air Tractor AT-502 registered VH-LIK, that occurred near Walgett, NSW on 5 November 2016. The aircraft collided with terrain while conducting spraying operations. The pilot was the sole occupant. Go Fund Me Click here to support Wilhelmi Family Support Fund by Narelle Cook On Saturday the 5th of November 2016 the Wilhelmi family was changed forever. The loss of Troy Wilhemi has shocked family, friends, work colleagues and the community. Tragically Troy was killed in an unforeseen aeroplane accident while crop dusting. He has left behind his wife Simone and their adoring 8 children, with a newborn 9 week old baby. He was the 'sole bread winner' for the whole family. The money will be used to assist with paying off the family's mortgage and to help with the children's education fund.

ATSB report here:- Investigation: AO-2016-118 - Loss of control involving Air Tractor AT-502, VH-ULV, near Esperance Airport, WA, on 10 September 2016 Briefly:- At about 1000 Western Standard Time on 10 September 2016, an Air Tractor AT-502 aircraft, registered VH‑ULV, was conducting aerial agricultural spraying activities at Salmon Gums, near Esperance, West Australia. During a turn at about 200 ft above the ground, the pilot lost control and the aircraft collided with terrain. The aircraft was substantially damaged and the pilot sustained serious injuries. Preliminary enquiries by the ATSB suggest that the accident was attributable to pilot actions. The ATSB considered it was very unlikely that further investigation would uncover any systemic safety issues. The ATSB has discontinued the investigation.

Student named 'The loss is deeply felt': Ultra-light plane crash victim remembered RIP to both. Sue

Since Old K gave me a 'caution' for my 6 year old post - I'll up date it to Nov 2016 Childers - unchanged - $200/yr but you own the hangar (buy or build) + $50 membership fee. Occasionally there is a hangar to rent; usually 'mates rates'. Grass strip, no landing fees, but you will be expected to contribute some sweat to maintaining the place. Emerald - 2016/17 in Council owned hangars - itinerant $20.80/day, in a multi-user combination bay with 2 aircraft $20/wk ea & POA. It now comes with a 44 page document of Terms & Conditions - Emerald Airport. Plus landing fees. Springsure - we had a 30x30 hangar site surveyed, which several other people have also attempted to develop. The lease stipulated the hangar had to be set in cement (making it hard to remove) and it reverted to the Council's ownership when the 20 yr lease expired if they or we decided not to renew. Had to construct a bitumen apron and taxi way to the strip and drainage works. Annual fees would be 10% of valuation /year - the letter incorrectly asked for $67,000 being 10% of the entire airport. That and about $100k of works + $15k hangar for a $30k plane killed it off for us and everyone who came after us. Rent would be about $10-20k/yr. Rent will depend on establishment and on-going costs.

Finished reading "Fate is the Hunter" for the first time, re-read "The Man Who Saved Smithy" Rick Searle (about Bill P.G. Taylor). Part way through "Absolute Altitude, A Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Sky" Martin Buckley and have found an old copy of Gann's "Flying Circus" up next.

Point one - you're backing One Nation at Qld election, Pauline for Premier! Point two - what's happening in Orange? Point three - the constitution doesn't go to CASA, in Qld it goes to the Office of Fair Trading, easy. Point four - just had a big clean out and the members returned the old board with only one new face.

Another airpark - Vanderwolf Road, Bunya Creek, Qld - in the area between Hervey Bay, River Heads, Susan River. There are two existing runways, the longest runs the length of the road. The following announcement by the Fraser Coast Regional Council today:- Bunya Creek Residential Airpark Council has approved an application to develop a residential airpark at Bunya Creek. The 60.7 hectare site along Vanderwolf Road will be developed into 42 community title lots over four stages. It currently has two runway strips for light aircraft. The development will provide potential residents with the opportunity to live in a community that has a shared interest in aviation, as well as the ability to garage their plane adjacent to their home.

Welcome Scezza, Hope you can get things on an even keel and up in the air real soon. Meanwhile you may have to go flying vicariously through this forum. What do you hope to fly? Sue

Keith, you have been advocating a centralised, face to face, hands-on course for L1 (as per MB's course). Frankly I wouldn't go as it would be too expensive to travel somewhere for 2 days to try to turn me into a mechanic, and my husband would be livid that someone tried to tell him what a spanner was. I did an Owner-Builder cert (to build your own house) - it taught where to look for rules, what you can do, can't do and an exercise in costing it out. It didn't teach you how to plaster, design a slab or construct purlins. The L1 is similar - it isn't designed to teach you to overhaul an engine but what you can do and where to find it. There will be people who don't work on their mower and wouldn't work on their plane - that's what an L2 is for.

That's mainly road rules (giving way to Left/Right). Each State has its own legislation around ancillary issues such as vehicle inspections (annual in NSW not required in Qld), medicals (every year for 75yrs+ in Qld, not in others), medical standard - each State makes its own determination on health standards for car drivers. Where there is "proof" RAA prudently request a copy - we send the medical certificate (not the full medical) to them at their request. The Qld licence which you can renew for up to 5 years, is dependant on holding the annual medical.

Driver's licences are a State issue, each State has their own regulations. In Qld drivers over a certain age must be medically assessed each year, and this is the certificate we supply to RAA. Other States are different. That's part of the problem - what is OK in WA may not be in Qld. CASA went to the National Heavy Vehicle medical standard for RPL because that was the only National health standard for operating a vehicle - a bit of overkill plus their 'extras' for flying.

A warm welcome to you too! Just love the story! Looking forward to more to come, the PPL, the plane .... Sue

ELAAA still don't have any information, despite a statement on Facebook that it was coming 7th Oct. The only info I have received from them is that they will cover my GA aircraft with a VH rego (VH-numbers) and maybe our 95-10 but nothing of any substance beyond that - eg what licence, assessments, tech manual etc. My concern for years, when people talk about having a separate "minimal aircraft" group is the cost of belonging to so many to fly similar aircraft. I think ELAAA is aiming to be 'everything' for a fee. I am also concerned about jumping out of the pan and into the fire. Going under another organisation may mean it is hard to go back, particularly a VH aircraft.

Welcome Richard! Retire!! What's that? Husband retired at 74 and now has 400 years of work ahead of him, although we are now finding more time for flying. He also says he "has one more plane" in him and it has been about 10 years since he finished building the last one. Keep active, keep learning. Sue

The heading above those figures is "Information about Pilots Involved in Fatal Accidents" The fatalities (on average) had 8 years membership, 1,780 hours flying time and 60 years old. That tells me (on average) it is not low time, recently qualified, young blokes that are cashing in their chips. As the hours are above average - perhaps there was one or two high hour pilots - eg done 10,000 flying for the RAAF or airlines before AUF/RAA?

Welcome rmorton, There are lots of Savannah build threads and advice here! The Sav is popular in Australia. Sue