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This does not look good. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-29/plane-crashes-at-barwon-heads-several-feared-dead/7124758

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This link includes a comment from the pilot https://www.backcountrypilot.org/forum/pucker-factor-in-a-stinson-7857

I believe this incident is discussed at length by the pilot. I can't remember where I saw it but I think it was hot and high long grass and I seem to recall no flaps? Can't quite see clip well enough on my phone. I will see if I can find a link later.

Just a few observations: Whilst there are a very small number of maccas that are halal certified, I am not sure how this equates with "us" being forced to change. Does anyone think these fast food outlets have been forced to offer halal? I would say much more likely that individual franchisees have crunched the numbers and as a business decision have decided to offer halal, just like many restaurants offer gluten free or kosher products. If this degrades the non halal product then complain, I am sure any business owner will follow the money. I arrived in this country in 1964 at the age of 18 months as a "ten pound" immigrant and in my early schooling I was bullied because I was British and apparently we were dirty and did not bathe regularly. Then there were the Greeks and Italians - most of us are mature and intelligent enough to realize that being Italian does not make you a member of the Mafia. In the late 70s it was Vietnamese that were invading us. In my first job one of my workmates used to rant about the asians (although that was not the terminology that he used) He was disturbed and I guess frightened by shops that had signs with Asian writing (or barbed wire writing as he called it). By the way halal is often used as a bit of a red herring, I would just ask people to do some fact checking - http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/restaurants-and-bars/what-a-whopper-spat-rages-over-halal-burger-claims-20120202-1qugs.html My friend and colleague Azedeh (who's family escaped from Iran when the Ayatollah took over) would like to assure you that she has no interest in what food you eat, she loathes violence of any sort and does not want to kill you.

Saturday is the busiest day at Lethbridge, the club usually has a BBQ. Monday tends to be quiet, I am out there every second monday and it varies from one or two other aircraft and the occasional visit from a MIT flying school aircraft to it being my own private airport - just me having a ball.

Can I ask FT (although of course you don't have to answer), if you are a current member of RAAUS?

Just wondering what evidence you have that this is fake. You will look much more credible if you present the evidence rather that just pronouncing it to be fake. I am sure you have determined it to be fake by using a LOGICAL and INTELLIGENT process and you well may be right, but come on, just like a maths test, lets see your workings out.

So many points to make here but lets just start with a few This is simply not true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils Can you provide references? I have read most of Dawkins books and I don't recall him saying that. Sickle cell anemia? http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/%3C?%20echo%20$baseURL;%20?%3E/mutations_06 But this has all been debated elsewhere on this forum and it is probably pointless and annoying to others. I am quite interested in the notion of intelligent design. If I understand it correctly it is based on the idea that the universe and the processes in it are so complex that they must have been designed. I would presume that such a complex task would require a designer that is also complex, which does rather beg the question, where did the designer come from? I don't really see the point in explaining one unknown with another unknown. What if I am wrong and it does turn out that the universe was created by a designer/builder? So what, other than being interesting, what difference does it make what I believe? Unless of course this cosmic architect somehow requires some kind of acknowledgement from me. Given the number of stars in the observable universe http://www.space.com/26078-how-many-stars-are-there.html it is hard to understand why this designer would be so interested in this particular solar system and indeed one particular life form on one planet. You would be rather disappointed if you were able to convince me that there is a creator, I would be just as likely to say "yes now I believe, praise be to Allah" or Prometheus. The intelligent design hypothesis is an argument for there being a creator, but I suspect that users of this argument have a particular creator in mind. Anyway, I don't have a problem with anyone's beliefs as long as they are not imposed on non-believers or people who have other beliefs. I do have a problem with the subverting or misquoting science in order to maintain a pre-existing belief or the use of an ancient text to control people. Cheers Graham

atheism - Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. From a- 'without' + theos 'god'. agnostic - A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God. From a- 'not' + gnostic known.

Saying atheism is a belief system is like saying not going skiing is a hobby. I've never been skiing. It's my biggest hobby. I literally do it all the time.

Couldn't agree more Yenn, I sometimes suspect that amount of whining is inversely proportional to the hours flown

My wife is under strict instructions that if I die during a flight under no circumstances should she manipulate the controls as this would be illegal.

I once accidently gave a post about the tragic death of 2 pilots a funny, I was panic stricken until I managed to delete it. So easy to make mistakes when posting from a phone.

A running commentary is a good idea for example "we have climbed to our cruise height so now I will reduce the engine speed" or "now we are going to descend so I need to reduce the engine power". In my experience, the nervous flyer gets concerned when they hear a change in the engine sound especially if they are looking outside.

I am not sure why we are talking about liability and law suites etc. these are things that may occur AFTER and accident occurs. Perhaps a thread about "Flying safety" should be about what pilots do to avoid being involved in an accident, avoid the accident and law suites etc are irrelevant. I am much more interested in what other pilots do to safeguard their own safety. I have a flying regime which I might share later when I have the time and I would love other people to post information about what THEY do to ensure THEIR own safety. Being well informed about the legal aspects regarding liability may be of some importance but I am not sure whether it is the most important aspect involved in ensuring safety for those of us who are regularly practicing aviation.

http://www.casa.gov.au/scripts/nc.dll?WCMS:STANDARD::pc=PC_93418

My understanding is that an ELB is only for a life-threatening emergency, if you can walk to a farmhouse and call the authorities, then that is what you should do rather than initiating a costly deployment aircraft and personnel.

Thank you and good luck Andy

Some video from my recent flight from Lethbridge to Apollo Bay.

Turbs, disagreeing with a posters assertions is hardly bullying, you do it all the time. I have not been impolite or engaged in any name calling. If I have engaged in any name calling or bullying, please alert me to it. If we are not allowed to discuss and sometimes disagree with each other then I really don't see the point of being on this forum.

do you mean re ratings sample size?

Again turbo with the offensive personal attacks. Are you questioning my intelligence? I will leave others to judge that. I always try to keep my posts to challenging ideas, not name calling.

Percentage of Australians who believe the ABC provides a valuable service to the community: 84%1 Estimated reach of ABC services via radio, television and online: 71%2 Average number of users who visit ABC online each week: 6 million3 ABC Radio’s average five-city weekly metropolitan reach: 4.7 million4 ABC Television’s average five-city weekly metropolitan reach: 9.4 million5 ABC Television’s total weekly regional reach: 4.5 million6 Average national audience for weeknight 7pm News on ABC: 1.2 million7 498,900 active users of the ABC flagship app on average each month8 Average monthly reach of ABC news and current affairs websites: 2.3 million9 References Newspoll, ABC Appreciation Survey, June 2014, national random sample (n=1902) conducted by telephone, people aged 14 years and over. Newspoll, ABC Awareness and Usage Survey, June 2014, in combination with ratings data, people aged 18 years and over. Webtrends Data July 2013—June 2014 Nielsen and Gfk from S1 2014, five city metropolitan, people aged 10 years and over, 2013—2014 OzTAM Consolidated Data 2013—2014 Regional TAM Consolidated Data 2013—2014 OzTAM and Regional TAM Consolidated Data 2013—2014 Flurry Analytics Nielsen Online Ratings – Hybrid, Australia, people aged 2 and over. http://www.fabcnsw.org.au/fabc/about_abc.php It costs 12.2 cents per day per taxpayer, that is $44.53 per year, Gnu if you promise not to watch or listen to any ABC station or web page I will happily reimburse you $44.53