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Current Full Flying Membership is $325.00 Sporting Shooters Association Membership is $115.00 RA flying is based on established designs. If you want to change a design, engineers need to get involved and they need to be paid so of course it gets expensive. Today I can buy a dual cab ute for about $30,000 - $180,000 I can make it an ambulance or a prime mover legally at an engineering cost of around $1.8 million for the trial unit. These crossover ideas have been touted for years now. The achilles heel has been the extra cost of having to learn and train on two systems. I haven't heard any derision of it. We have our equivalent and there's no derision that I've heard of it either, just people who want to fly longer distances. Well you've mixed with the likes of Dick so you know the practical limits.

The current system as others have said revolves around economics - information return on investment, or "if the cause is obvious, why go through the expensive ATSB comprehensive process." In the current process, where police investigate the accident and call in Recreational Aviation Australia for specialised assistance, it's been normal for RAA to call in ATSB for more specialist advice, which others have said. There's no reason that any data would not be recovered if undamaged and presented to NSW Police forming part of their brief to the NSW Coroner. One issue is that the Coroner is looking for the cause of death and we are looking for the cause of accident. Another issue is that some Coroner reports take a very long time, and can be poorly referenced for pubic access. We could probably get what we want for learning purposes if the Coroner released the Police Brief with redactions.

No I'm not and now is no time to start questioning categories that have worked well and demonstrated their safety in design, construction and operation for decades.

........told of their racing history with the once great CAMS, the razor sharp racing with only a few hay bales for protection; driving the race cars to the tracks; leading to one epic case where Turbo was chased by the South Australia Highway Patrol in one of their Chryslers. The Chrysler Royal at the time had the fastest 0-100 km/hr in Australia surpassing the Jags, but unable to deviate from a straight line because of their US boulevard suspension. Turbo knew the trick was to suck them in with a lame duck performance, weave so they couldn't pass then when a corner loomed up, flatten it and hope they ran off the road. While they were coping with brake fade and avoiding trees, the next trick was to park up a side road. Not everyone knows that at that time Turbo's father was busy developing Australia's first Ultralight aircraft. He made this huge kite from tubular chair tube, a meterial which was strong and flexible yet very light. He covered it with rag, painted dope onto the rag, and strapped himself to it while Turbo age 4 gave the Jag powered speedboat full throttle. A few heads were warped before they established a signal process between them that didn't throw old Harvey Turbine off the kite and into the water. As others copied the designs they became known as "Rag and Tube aircraft" and this led to............

I already mentioned your campaign in raising FAR Part 103 in Australia was a waste of time because we already had the equivalent to this US category, yet every time we open this site there it is stuck in people's faces, in RAA Ltd faces, in CASA faces, in ATC faces, in GA faces. When something like the current attacks are launched - there it is drawing attention to something we don't do and can't accept under our laws. Our RA categories have been developed to say that our bad old days are gone, so it's inappropriate for uninformed commentators to publicly run RA down as "hobby pilots" when producing figures that show RA is safer than GA.

I wouldn't rule out this being the start of the GA pushback to the RAA moves. Right from the point where RAA Ltd was started a lot of the statements didn't make sense, but people were talking into the "we've outgrown the cricket club association model." Now the members are trapped outside the Limited Company model and can't get inside and move it. The protective responses to the ABC video and stories should have happened already pointing out that of the 27 fatalities broadcast by the ABC in the name of "hobby aircraft", just 6 apply to Recreational Aircraft.

Cappy also was a keen boat racer; this was the name of his Jaguar powered hydroplane.

It seems Keith Link is a Councillor from Cohuna in Victoria Cohuna Airport was taken over by the Cohuna Lions Club from Coliban Water in 2020. Keith Link is quoted as saying its important for the town to have its air ambulance.

...........precise and exhaustive facts which were always unrebutable. It was Turbo who pioneered the Pom-to-Europe driver's 18 hour days with at least one meal of fish and chips per day. He was also at the front of the blockade of what is now known as P!ssers Hill in Dover which gained PomDrivers not less than one restroom visit per day, and got them into those swaying Volvos with the Mack roof horns which ....... Turbo thanks Cappy fpr his sympathetic mention of Turbo's troubled childhood. He still has an addiction for Minties which he is always trying to beat.

Good to see some people jumping in to defend RA. Angus Mitchell, listed by the ASBC as an indonesian Linguist, was concerned about these hobby planes flying low and slow which is dangerous. I flew some but was faster by several percent above stall to GA, amd these climbed faster and there are plenty of people on here who make a habit of flying at higher altitudes than I did, so it would be interesting to find out where Angus got this low and slow story.

Just recapping the figures presented in the written version of this: Total: 27 deaths for 12 months of which just 6 were RA> Yet a person has an engine failure in a GA aircraft, follows procedure and lands it and somehow this outcome has him saying he looks at some of these planes and shakes his head.....they worry him......he wants tightening of minimum standards for pilots and aircraft. 16 people were killed in GA aircraft, 6 in RA - where should the head shaking be aimed?, what should he be worried about?, where's the ATSB investigation of his event? The video goes on with "one of the concerns is different rules and standards for hobby aircraft and pilots." Of course the rules and standards in RA are different to GA. The Rules and standards in GA are also different to RPT. There's certainly something going on here that's not making a lot of sense.

Just came across this ABC video: https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/string-of-fatal-recreational-plane-crashes-in-victoria-raises-questions/vi-AA1wVS6X?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=8694473924104e60bc0c310e0222985a&ei=51

and helping us all to understand the English Language that much better. Not many people know that Turbo was English-handicapped in his early school years and his teacher would give him extra assignments to go out and find examples of words. Commer was one of them and he rode his bike to the highway and counted 130 Commer semi trailers going past over a 17 hour stint. The local cop eventually found him signing off a driver's log book and.......... WQ10292.wav

I just threw some broad figures up in the air so see if there was a distinction between the two groups going forward based on the cost of flying new or near new aircraft (hiring). The current situation is like two chooks with their heads chopped off; they are going in all directions. In GA there's one stream going into instructing then getting endorsements on bigger and faster aircraft, then getting into charter etc then getting on the bottom rung for RPT. There's another hiring the aircraft they learnt on to do short distance cross-country, then as they can afford it, stepping up into touring aircraft with more radio equipment, retracts, C/S props, higher speeds for the Melbourne - Coober Pedy, Ayers Rock, Darwin, Nhullumbuy, Whitsundays and back. 40 - 60 years ago they could hire new or near-new aircrtaft to do this; some of them are now hiring 60 year old airctaft. The question with that group is how to get back to a new or near new touring aircraft today. And there's the question of where your students learning on Slings and Foxbats fit in. Are they aspiring to what I've just described or are they forming a group similar to the top end of RA of limited cross country - maybe 2 or 3 hours max? Then there are the levels of RA flying as some people have mentioned - quite a few levels which operate within their own fraternities.

So does NTSB in the US - Aviation, Railroad, Highway, Marine, Pipeline, Hazardous Materials. Stops the dog whistling of six heads of departments. Victoria recently added Planning to Transport so theoretically roughly 3000 people to whittle down.

The video was contiguous, Jetskis around it 1.5 km SDth Nambucca Heads 4 pm "ATSB investigating", 1 body retrieved, another report stating "Microlight" so some clarity needed.

Plenty of Australians fly that category, it's not called Part 103 in Australia. Don't forget there are 9-11,000 members in RAA doing their own thing in their own groups.

Rough figures; the cost of a new GA trainer/cross country is $500,000 to $1.2 mil. RA new $50,000 t0 $250,000 We need the different standard if the average person is to be able to afford to fly or hire relatively new AC. RA should be viewed as other sporting activities are; the State police investigate the accident and provide the evidence to the State Coroner. For non fatal accidents, RA people have to get themselves into gear and catch up with other hi risk sports which self-administer.

We've been on these treasure hunts before. The information keeps changing.

VH Registration visible in footage (Daily Mail Australia).

.......embarrassment for NASA, who these days were mucking around up a volcano taking CO2 levels from the flames and telling everyone the world was doomed, trying to get people to eat beetles instead of steak, and rolling out old Buzz Aldrin movies for the kids. With the release of the new Chinese Stealth fighter, Don T wasn't waiting to be inaugurated but had ordered NASA to build a better one and make it Zero Emission, Donny liking the idea of him being the one to save the environment. The above photo, purported to be an old Russian Space Shuttle is actually the newest US Stealth fighter carrying so much electronics that it needed to be build like a truck and was harder to service than a Hyundai Tucson which is saying something. It's shown here with the anti-radar antenna that NASA feels is goning to be a winner and AOK Ever-mindful of the environment and excessive CO2, NES readers will note the dust on the aircraft showing that no CO2 has been expended on sh!t like cleaning. You can see I'm Bob in the red shirt bombing this training photo. When you upset NASA ................. [Congratulations to bull for introducing the triple comma into the English language]

Rubbish indeed; the Jabiru is a 4 stroke engine. We are talking about two strokes; there's a huge difference in the engineering, performance and maintenance. I've managed to sieze a two stroke engine where the specification was 16:1 and I used 40:1; I learnt my lesson.

40-1 is not fine if the manufacture requires a different mix. Good example of why 2 stroke requires specialised training.

.........all jumped up and did a Haka, poking out their tongues and rolling their eyes, pathetic really, but it was authentic, they'd taken off their shoes and loosened their ties. What they didn't know was this was bindii country and immediately there were howls of pain. From a distance the Australians didn't know this so they started doing the Ernie Dingo "Welcome to Country" where people stamp their feet and sniff smoke from the leaves dropped on a fire. The Aussies only gave the ceremony passing seriousness and that's what saved them. The Aussies stepped forward in time to Gough Whitlam's Anthem, being careful to get the word "girt" correct. Thge New Zealanders had just exhausted all the bindii on their stamping ground when they were pushed back on to a new patch, and with loud howls they tried to out flank the Aussies, who by now had accidently set fire to the whole battleground. It was NZer I'm Bob who ........

GA training for a PA28 140 or Warrior where the engine fails on take off is usually FUEL (tap change) > MIXTURE RICH > SWITCHES L>R > aim between two houses or factories. It's forced landings where, after the above preliminary it's TRIM for 75 kts followed by the forced landing checklist. It's the trim action which gets the aircraft on an optimum descent path with the engine off.