Diddy Pilot Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Not another one. 4 fatalities from 3 accidents this week. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-02-08/plane-crashes-on-qld-border/4508176 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedog Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK58 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I know a couple of guys out that way. Anyone know who it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 God no not another one...its a rag covered aircraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Just don't know what to say this is so bad, we are going to have start finding out the causes of these prangs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Is that an Icarus? Looks to me like a Plastic fuselage with Fabric wings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 A Terrier perhaps................................?.........................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Karaone, Karatoo ??.................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forgotten Password Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 It's a Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 OK thanks, a Murphy ....................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottw Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yeah the aircraft looks familiar, it appears to be a Murphy Maverick and by the Stripes and scheme, it looks like the aircraft that was based at Toowoomba about 6-7 years ago. The aircraft went to Warwick for a period and then never saw it again for quite some time unfortunately until now. Remember chatting with the owner a couple of occasions albeit both breifly. Here is a shot I took of the Murphy Renegade December 2005 @ YTWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 I know a couple of guys out that way. Anyone know who it was? The man killed was reportedly from the area and known as "Bob the Builder" - he had recently built a house outside of the main town. Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/one-dead-in-plane-crash-20130208-2e2i7.html#ixzz2KMDtQDtS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Not an Ultralight. Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XP503 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Agree with David, I think you are confusing it with the Murphy Rebel. The Maverick was built much lighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Agree with David, I think you are confusing it with the Murphy Rebel.The Maverick was built much lighter Thus the Fabric wing covering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Agree with David, I think you are confusing it with the Murphy Rebel.The Maverick was built much lighter There was Murphy Rebel registered as an ultralight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Just don't know what to say this is so bad, we are going to have start finding out the causes of these prangs. Richard, I`ve just become aware of this accident,from this thread. I feel the same as you do and I couldn`t agree or stress the point more, however, Simply calling for more information on accidents isn`t in itself of much value! There needs to be qualified persons capable of investigating accidents and coming up with the correct reason/s. If an aircraft is RAA registered, it should be the responsibility of the RAA to investigate then inform it`s members of the cause. Expecting CASA,Police, ATSB or any other, to investigate then pass on the information to RAA, isn`t in my opinion, good enough. Frank. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Richard, I`ve just become aware of this accident,from this thread. I feel the same as you do and I couldn`t agree or stress the point more, however, Simply calling for more information on accidents isn`t in itself of much value! There needs to be qualified persons capable of investigating accidents and coming up with the correct reason/s.If an aircraft is RAA registered, it should be the responsibility of the RAA to investigate then inform it`s members of the cause. Expecting CASA,Police, ATSB or any other, to investigate then pass on the information to RAA, isn`t in my opinion, good enough. Frank. Hi Frank, yes I agree with that, problem is right now we have no idea what is happening. The police do investigate fatal accidents but we don't have access to the findings, there is most likely is some sort of reasoning for that, but you would think the police report would be better than nothing. As for RAAus doing something you are quite right, but currently there are so many problems with RAAus, they struggle to do basic things like register planes and flying school audits let alone investigate accidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayavner Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Wouldn't a police report or standard coroner's report just state cause of death as impact trauma due to aircraft accident and leave it at that? i wouldn't think those reports would investigate to the level to help us understand root cause on the accidents themselves? I could be wrong, i have never seen one, but my impression was unless an aviation-related party investigates, that the info provided is mostly about what happened and when and to whom and the result at a pretty basic level? in other words, probalby nothing we wouldn't already know or have guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 you would think the police report would be better than nothing.quote]Not if the investigation and report is carried out by the local police officer who isn`t interested very much in yet another Ultralight crash and doesn`t know much about these aircraft! Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I don't know for sure but I think it is not the local policeman that does the investigation but someone experienced in these things and they can and do request assistance from RAAus. I thought the coroner had to establish the cause of death whether it be suicide, accident or fowl play and the report went further than "the sudden stop was too much for the human body to handle". I agree the correct way to do this is for RAAus to handle it themselves but I can not see that happening any time soon as we appear to have a management problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGL Fox Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 If we get the right team together maybe then they could handle something as important at investigating accidents, they are having problems handling the normal running of the organisation right now let alone if they had to investigate accidents too..how much could that cost the membership if that was mis handled in money and prestige? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottw Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Here is a shot I took of the Murphy Renegade December 2005 @ YTWB I just realised my mistake with the image caption I should have said Murphy Maverick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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