Guest Maj Millard Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Or...as it had not been used for a bit, and was hard to start...a tar blocked idle jet at the bottom of the fuel bowl. Back to idle on short final.....thaaaaaaa..no noise.............Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Bankstown is not much better since it was privatised.An industrial development now stands where there were a couple of vacant paddocks not far from the end of 29L & 29C. One would have thought it would have been prudent to leave any such vacant land clear, in case of emergencies. The development could easily have fitted in a vacant area around the corner, where the old Schofields Flying Club building sits unused ,or, several other areas not in line with the runways. Not to mention Schofields Aerodrome itself. Again, developers are planning a suburb extension and large shopping centre there and the aerodrome is lost to the people of North Western Sydney for ever ...all in order to line the pockets of a few developers. Now there is talk of saving the "historic" airship hangar at Schofields. What a joke. They should have saved the airfield instead. I lived in Schofields for fifteen years and it is a real shame what is happening with the place. The weekend flyers overhead were music to my ears. It's all over now for good. I am glad I am out of there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Crikey, not a Jabiru engine failure, but a Rotax! Crikey! Hey Keen, I hope you're not starting another one of those vicious Rotax-bashing threads elsewhere on this forum as a result of this crash, are you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willborne Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I am based in Casino and try and avoid taking off on runway 28 as much as possible. Landing on runway 10 is also a worry with vans and motorhomes everywhere. The van park is a giant pain in the $$#@ and you end up using runway 10 for TO and 28 for landings even when the windsock is telling you not to. Willborne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscotthendry Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I seem to remember not so long ago when the whole council in Wollongong was caught with greasy hands ,It seems to go on all over the country , I know of buissines people in YBUD who were caught out trying to bribe the Harvey / bay Council and where fined big $$ ( say no more) Sooner or later these crooks will get caught out , especially when something like this happens & people start asking questions . Unfortunately, I think that for every one that gets caught, ten get away with what they're doing. All too often we, the taxpayers don't find out what's been going on until the crooks are looong gone and their ill gotten loot is stashed in secret numbered accounts (or trusts) out of harm's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 The Northern Star Pilot makes miraculous landing after engine fails Hamish Broome 8th Jul 2013 7:02 AM AN AMATEUR pilot and off-duty police officer was forced into a nail-biting emergency landing yesterday morning near Casino Aerodrome when the engine of his ultra light plane conked out 300 metres above the ground. Richmond Local Area Command Inspector Nicole Bruce said the pilot had only just taken off and was roughly 350 metres from the aerodrome, near a water tower on the corner of Hare and Walker streets, when the engine stopped. Forced to make a series of quick life-saving decisions, the pilot banked his now gliding plane back towards the aerodrome, losing precious altitude in the process. Witnesses at a cabin park and retirement village a few hundred metres west of the aerodrome described seeing the light plane gliding delicately just metres above their roofs. In a desperate last-ditch manoeuvre while losing metres every second, the pilot was forced to swerve his plane mid-flight to avoid striking the last house before an unused section of the runway. The last-second turn forced him to land on a grassy area north of the runway, and while the touch down was reportedly smooth, one wheel of the plane struck an electricity meter which caused the plane to flip over. Inspector Bruce said the pilot, hanging with his seatbelt on, was able to dislodge himself and crawl out. He was miraculously unharmed. Fire and Rescue NSW, Casino Volunteer Rescue Squad, and local police arrived at the scene within minutes where they quickly cordoned off the area due to concern over leaking fuel from the aircraft. Investigations into the cause of the mechanical failure are continuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Pretty much says it all to me...if the 'last' house hadn't been there in the first place, the pilot Probabily would have made a normal emergency landing. Instead he was forced to do the best he could and damaged the aircraft in the process...........Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick-p Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm not knocking the pilot only the story as reported. Do the math, 300 metres height 350 metres from the aerodrome best glide velocity, it doesn't gel. Once again great reporting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Council insists residents not in danger following Casino crash-landing Interesting headline from an ABC article, read here- http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/07/08/3798080.htm?site=northcoast More interesting the photograph under the headline; This photo was taken during one of the 'Drag' meetings the council approved on the airstrip which, although didn't damage the strip too badly, it did inspire the local hoons to damage a couple of aircraft afterwards... Comments that the strip is still plenty long enough, according to the above photo, would imply it was one hell of a long runway originally!? Looks like it's cut in half to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Bit late to have a look at it....damn good example of how not to do it !!.......................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I would suggest Richmond Council General Manager Mr Walker moves into the home closest to the strip, if he feels it was a good decision to develop the area in that way. Really Mr Walker, if you should in some roundabout way get to read this post, which I sincerely hope you do, you were no doubt elected by the local populus to make good decisions for the common good of the local community who pay your wages, but judging by your remarks in the ABC report, your decision making expertise lacks commonsense like many other sad cases in local government who should never be in that job. Get real please, so you can hold your head high, or do we have to report the matter to WorkCover, CASA, ICAC, or the Ministry of Plain & Simple Common Sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulh Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Are they serious where the grey roof house is about 50m from the old piano keys?? Braver than me to live in that house, I like watching the planes fly over my area but they about 2000ft not 200ft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Are they serious where the grey roof house is about 50m from the old piano keys?? Braver than me to live in that house, I like watching the planes fly over my area but they about 2000ft not 200ft I couldn't agree more. I love a bit of light aircraft noise too. But I would have a few concerns if I had to open the front door and the screen door at the back when an aircraft is coming in to land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 ... Get real please, so you can hold your head high, or do we have to report the matter to WorkCover, CASA, ICAC, or the Ministry of Plain & Simple Common Sense? The Ministry you suggested, sadly, is only a figment of imagination even though such a Ministry is hoped for by most decent Australians. I do SO wish that there was such a Ministry that would properly review local, state and federal government decisions, like the decision to build a village at the end of that runway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 It isn't going to happen soon, there's too much money to be made corrupting officials and it's so easy. I live in the middle of a patch in Melbourne and have had to deal with it for20 years. After living in another part of the suburb for years I had no idea of what was going on but very quickly learned the principle of developers actually employing staff to seek out an edge - a piece of land close to industrial or residential zoned land, which could be bought for about 10% of the cost of Residential/Industrial Zoned land by quietly working away to have the zoning changed. In many cases the developer signs a secret purchase agreement with the land holder to pay a small deposit and complete the deal subject to rezoning, so he doesn't even pay the pittance until after he collects. This is a form of insider trading which is a crime, and occasionally we score when someone opens his mouth once too often. Mostly though its a very hard slog watching the trends, watching innocent Council Announcements, the worst being along the lines of "Council has decided to protect xxxx by yyyy" and you usually find a clause buried somewhere ready to be used once the population has bought the dummy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 OMG it wouldn't be a Rotax would it, they don't stop! Rick-p, Actually yes they do stop as do all brands, but just not as often or as many as a certain Australian brand. Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Every time a small(ish) but useful regional area strip gets crowded out by development, thank John Anderson. How a Country Party (under whatever name it was at the time) member could have sold out the protection of a viable aviation presence in a community to the venal interests of local Councils is beyond me, and as the road infrastructure continues to deteriorate, especially in Queensland following repeated flooding, the availability of a strip to serve the local community will be more and more keenly felt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles5128 Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 I remember when they upgraded casino to take RPT jets, the council at the time believed that casino would be the hub for Lismore and Ballina areas. That was short lived then suddenly a housing development..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Well Ballina and Lismore got the money there didn't they ?.........................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 It isn't going to happen soon, there's too much money to be made corrupting officials and it's so easy. I live in the middle of a patch in Melbourne and have had to deal with it for20 years. After living in another part of the suburb for years I had no idea of what was going on but very quickly learned the principle of developers actually employing staff to seek out an edge - a piece of land close to industrial or residential zoned land, which could be bought for about 10% of the cost of Residential/Industrial Zoned land by quietly working away to have the zoning changed. In many cases the developer signs a secret purchase agreement with the land holder to pay a small deposit and complete the deal subject to rezoning, so he doesn't even pay the pittance until after he collects. This is a form of insider trading which is a crime, and occasionally we score when someone opens his mouth once too often. Mostly though its a very hard slog watching the trends, watching innocent Council Announcements, the worst being along the lines of "Council has decided to protect xxxx by yyyy" and you usually find a clause buried somewhere ready to be used once the population has bought the dummy. Law of Logical Argument-Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exadios Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 so, who approves a retirement village at the end of a runway?http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-07/light-aircraft-narrowly-misses-crash-landing-near-casino/4804458?section=nsw I do not understand how this can happen. From the time of joining downwind the aircraft should be able to land on the runway whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 And to think that we (Australian Army) would often be either picked up or dropped off their at the Casino aerodrome by RAAF C-130 Hercules aircraft back in the late 1960's and early 70's. The runway was one of the few that was specially grooved to allow for major wet weather landings, etc. An of all the land available around Casino, the local council used the western end of the aerodrome to place a mobile home/caravan park there! Brilliant eh! Rodger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 An of all the land available around Casino, the local council used the western end of the aerodrome to place a mobile home/caravan park there! Brilliant eh! Rodger You realise, River, that the Council in all likelihood employed a couple of consultants at $120/hour for two weeks to write a comprehensive, colourful report about the aesthetic and environmental impacts. This no doubt would have resulted in a Statement of Environmental Effects (SOEE). Hopefully the Council didn't employ another consultant to peer review this SOEE (at $150/hour for 3 days). In any case, the Council 'approved' this village in that location because the experts deemed it have minimal negative impact on either the environment or the operational functionality of the aerodrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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