facthunter Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Side by side makes a fat plane sometimes but does simplify C of G issues. I prefer Tandem for vision but not as matey (or squashed) whichever way you look at it. They must have been little people when they designed the C-150's. The planes haven't shrunk. People have spread. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Side by side makes a fat plane sometimes but does simplify C of G issues. Only if you are sitting on the CofG, if you are sitting out front then side by side becomes a problem. Staggered gives you a few benefits; Narrower than full side by side, Usually no 1-up/2-up CofG problems, One instrument panel, Good pilot visibility, Plenty of shoulder room, Can still relate to your passenger. But, It looks a little weird, so people tend to shy away from it? Convention can be so hard to break away from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It is probably a little unconventional. Yes the pilot (s) have to be near the C of G where they don't move it, but pushers have problems with falling on their tail when occupants get out if the wheels aren't a long way back then they fall on their nosewheels when landing.. Fuel location is the worst if it's not near the C of G as the balance point is then changing during flight. Depends on how simple you wish to make it. or whether you like a challenge. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 pushers have problems with falling on their tail when occupants get out Fuel location is the worst if it's not near the C of G This will be a taildragger, with the fuel in the wings. It may not be painted gold? It will also have folding wings. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Not unintentional I hope. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I hope not as well. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microman Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Basically a Kolb Twinstar Mk 2 then - I am restoring one at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 from front on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Front view Not quite. As a side by side stagger, it's going to be a bit wider, and have struts. Initial X-plane creation before colouring. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Not quite.As a side by side stagger, it's going to be a bit .... And also not a tricycle where you get out and it becomes a fall-on-its-ass ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Not to mention that the construction is completely different as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet47 Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 All this conversation about my project while I've been busy working - I didn't think anyone was particularly interested other than me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Yup, we sure are. There's not nearly enough homebuilding going on ... and you're doing a great job! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 All this conversation about my project while I've been busy working - I didn't think anyone was particularly interested other than me I am extremely interested and appreciate your time to show us what you are up to, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBob Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Yep....we watching over here too........) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet47 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Aside from aircraft building I had a visitor today who I think may be living under my house on a diet of frogs & mice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Pylon, sorry forgotten your name, anyway. your folding wing looks the same as I want to do with my Thruster. Care to show me/us how you intend to make the fold assembly? This is what I envisioned: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Finally back from holidays... OK, the wingfold is the same concept, but done a bit different. It's an all metal wing with one strut. The wing has a single spar, and is attached to the fuselage by what is basically a universal joint. The strut is attached at to the wing via a rotating pin (a lot heavier than the Groppo Trail). The rear spar is attached via a remotely pulled pin which, after 'unsafetied', is operated from the wingtip allowing the wing to roll forward to vertical while still being supported by the strut. Then just swung back alongside the fuselage (will have some form of brace to hold it back). Nothing is disconnected, fuel tubes just flex with the wing and the flaperon rods go up with the wing, pushing the flaperons to the full 'up' position to give clearance for the prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Thanks mate. The Thruster, not having a 'main spar' becomes a bit more difficult. I will have to maintain the front and rear spar locking points and disconnect the struts at their lower end. I like your idea of a remote pin-pull but don't think I can incorporate it in my system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bexrbetter Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet47 Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 A couple more pictures and a little more progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet47 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Absolutely fan bloody tastic, made my day seeing this! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planet47 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Absolutely fan bloody tastic, made my day seeing this! Thanks for your support bex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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