Deskpilot Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 An old idea that could speed up supply delivery, probably reduce long distance freight costs and make our roads safer. http://www.wimp.com/fairchildpackplane/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I like the undercarriage, DP-been fiddling with a retractable design similar to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 I like the undercarriage, DP-been fiddling with a retractable design similar to that. To which DP are you referring OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDQDI Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 That's an awesome setup, I wonder why it didn't go ahead? Maybe you can make it lighter if it doesn't have to have a remove able pod? But looks like it would be ideal for military ops maybe you could even have it in flight droppable with chutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 To which DP are you referring OK? DP=Deskpilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I wouldn't write it off yet; a few factors slow it's adoption down, and it shares some of the same problem of demountable bodies on trucks which seem so simple but become a logistics nightmare when you run the volume up to full hubbing. The most obvious is prime cost and fuel cost per tonne - and in that respect we are probably only waiting for a new engine to be invented. I was involved in the design of some of the world's first ISO Refrigerated Containers, and adapted truck bodies and semi trailers to suit the first ISO 46"x46" pallets. These two developments are so stunningly effective that that aircraft would only need a nose cone and four inverted twistlocks to lock a container in place, which may have been brought down from the top of a copper mine, or trucked out to the airport. However, as good as those designs have been, in the several decades I've been working with concept, ISO Containers are still well short of their optimum use, and trucks and semi trailers are not even close to being able to maximise their opportunities. So the aircraft's designers can take heart that the time will come, if they haven't already died of old age. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmick Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Thunder Birds are Go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The British had a better version in the 60's .... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 DP=Deskpilot OK, sure I'm working on a rear-ward retract nose wheel but I need main wheels that go sideways without rotating like a pendulum, and tucks themselves into the side of the fuselage. They must also be anchored in the fuselage, not in the wings. Another thread perhaps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daza Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 OK, sure I'm working on a rear-ward retract nose wheel but I need main wheels that go sideways without rotating like a pendulum, and tucks themselves into the side of the fuselage. They must also be anchored in the fuselage, not in the wings. Another thread perhaps. What about... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Impressive, Daza. You have gotten a lot further with your design than me! An UL needs simplicity, lightness and total reliability. I like the idea of fold-back/stick out a little bit like Blanics and Gooney Birds. My ultimate is a simple, linked system that deploys flaps and wheels in one movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daza Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I can't claim any credit for that one, Found it searching for ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunder Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Something like a Wildcat..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soleair Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Doesn't the Sea Rey u/c retract upwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted November 9, 2014 Author Share Posted November 9, 2014 Daza, that's just what I'm looking for. Thanks. Now to make it light enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVOCET Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think that might work for the Avocet amphibian , looks light weight and compact . Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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