red750 Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 State Library of S.A. Royal Aero Club, Parafield [B 10322] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 (edited) There's an error in the caption, the aircraft in the foreground is a Hillson Praga, not a Hillston Praga. There were only ever 3 imported into Australia. They were a beaut, lightweight, sporty little machine - but unfortunately, none of them survived WW2. One was destroyed in a crash in 1943, and the other two were lost in fires in 1944 and 1945. https://aeropedia.com.au/content/hillson-praga/ Here's the newspaper story of the Hillson Praga that crashed. It was being flown by two Inspectors from the CAC, and they both climbed out of the wreckage relatively unscathed. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/49545239 Edited February 2 by onetrack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted February 2 Author Share Posted February 2 1 hour ago, onetrack said: There's an error in the caption, the aircraft in the foreground is a Hillson Praga, not a Hillston Praga. You'll have to notify the State Library of S.A., it's their photo, copied fromFacebook. No copyright. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Very low powered plane' 40 HP JAP) I've seen other planes powered by it. Tipsy Nipper? A quick search doesn't show that motor but similarly powered ones like a Stark Stamo. It's in the aerobatic category. Nev Edited February 3 by facthunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 On 02/02/2024 at 7:54 PM, onetrack said: There's an error in the caption, the aircraft in the foreground is a Hillson Praga, not a Hillston Praga. There were only ever 3 imported into Australia. They were a beaut, lightweight, sporty little machine - but unfortunately, none of them survived WW2. One was destroyed in a crash in 1943, and the other two were lost in fires in 1944 and 1945. https://aeropedia.com.au/content/hillson-praga/ Here's the newspaper story of the Hillson Praga that crashed. It was being flown by two Inspectors from the CAC, and they both climbed out of the wreckage relatively unscathed. https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/49545239 As long as it's not a Hillsong... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 What is the difference between a gypsy moth and a tiger moth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The Gypsy Moth is a DH60 Moth and was the first de Havilland Moth, it first appeared in 1925. The Tiger Moth is the DH82 Moth, it replaced the DH60, and it first flew in 1931. Geoffrey de Havilland built two DH71 Tiger Moths, but these were just prototypes, they were monoplanes, built to test new engines for de Havilland aircraft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_DH.60_Moth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Tiger_Moth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The Gypsy Moth has the engine cylinders at the top with exposed rockers and an exhaust pipe along the left upper side and the total airframe is made of wood. The TIGER moth DH-82 and 82A have steel tube fuselages some being specially stressed for "flick" rolls and more sweep back on the top WINGS for easier access to the front cockpit and the "Normal" inverted motor 130 HP Gypsy major 1-C. Neither plane has brakes originally but Canadian ones with a cockpit canopy do. This comes with the wheels mounted further forward and consequently is a bit more twitchy directionally.. Nev 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 The tiger has those pressure activated slats too. Dunno if the gypsy does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 03/02/2024 at 11:49 AM, facthunter said: Very low powered plane' 40 HP JAP) I've seen other planes powered by it. Tipsy Nipper? A quick search doesn't show that motor but similarly powered ones like a Stark Stamo. It's in the aerobatic category. Nev Original factory Nippers were all powered by VW based engines - hand prop ones too. Homes built ones were usually VW before the Jabiru 2200 became available. Many are now flying on Jabirus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Danny I researched the GIPSY and all I saw had the LE slats. That doesn't prove they all did. and the ASI was the sping flap on a graduated scale on the wing strut. The one I flew (VH ULM.) was 30 + years old and being all wood I wasn't anxious to put it through it's Paces. There was NO cover over the valve rockers. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) Cool..I've been in one, but hadn't noticed the slats. I kinda assumed the tiger was the first for some reason. Just looked it up. I reckon it's VH-UMK . Until this discussion I had no idea it was all wood. I was already a bit nervous about wooden wings, let alone the whole thing 😄 Still, was a great experience. My partner was in the Tiger Moth. The same owner, Bill also has a Tiger Moth and a Leopard Moth, which apparently is exceedingly rare. I don't believe the Leopard Moth is flying though... https://abpic.co.uk/pictures/registration/VH-UMK If you look closely in these pics, there seems to be something under the top wings leading edge. Now I know, I would say that's part of the automatic retract mechanism for the slats? Edited February 12 by danny_galaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 The 3 per side covers under the outer Leading .Edge of the UPPER wing cover the hinges You are supposed to lock them when taxiing but I forgot a few times. . So did the bloke doing a test flight in a U tube I viewed since this has all come up. From now on I will spell Gipsy correctly. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, facthunter said: The 3 per side covers under the outer Leading .Edge of the UPPER wing cover the hinges You are supposed to lock them when taxiing but I forgot a few times. . So did the bloke doing a test flight in a U tube I viewed since this has all come up. From now on I will spell Gipsy correctly. Nev Would that be because they might bounce around a lot, causing wear and tear? Sounds like a pain, lock, taxi, get ground crew to unlock, line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 They just flop loosely out and in. On a flat surface there wouldn't be a problem but it's shaking on the hinges with no air load that is the problem. You have to remember to lock them down too. I wouldn't like to do spins and aeros with them active., The slats move forward and back with 2 short arms parallel to each other.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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