BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 20 minutes ago, spacesailor said: But those ' lower ' educated wan-a-be's . Will still have big problems getting through their test's. Not just a safe pilot . Pass that " basic " then more & more ,tests keep coming. Is the ads-b .proficiency test on the cards yet . We can't have uneducated usage. Like radio , must pass a stringent test . Even tho you have other radio transmitting licenses. & still not from ground to air . Like my CFI told me " I'm wasting his time " . ' netflix ' cheaper than a couple of hours gasoline. And I don't upset the CFI .LoL spacesailor I have passed all the raaus exams but I imagine they are pretty easy compared to GA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueadventures Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 23 minutes ago, djpacro said: NOPE. At Moorabbin a Sling 2 is $364 to 368 dual. Foxbat $328 dual. Also a Jabiru and Gazelle for training there. How much is the Gazelle? As that may be the best for BrendAn as he will be flying the XAir to build hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 35 minutes ago, BrendAn said: I rang a flying school at Moorabbin and that's the price I got. It was oasis. Do you think he gave me a GA rate. You spoke to them, not me. I guess that he simply answered the question that you asked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfGnome Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Too far away for you, but by way of comparison, Fly Illawarra at Shell Harbour charge $240/hr for instruction on a J160. The prices you’re paying at Sale seem a little(?) on the pricey side. 🫤 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 23 minutes ago, djpacro said: You spoke to them, not me. I guess that he simply answered the question that you asked. I asked about raaus but he may have not heard me . Now I think about it he asked if I had a casa medical, I just assumed it was because training was in controlled airspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 27 minutes ago, sfGnome said: Too far away for you, but by way of comparison, Fly Illawarra at Shell Harbour charge $240/hr for instruction on a J160. The prices you’re paying at Sale seem a little(?) on the pricey side. 🫤 I train at Latrobe valley aero club. Traralgon. Your right ,it's not cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area-51 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Have you tried Gawler in SA? should be somebody instructing in Ra there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnieM Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, sfGnome said: Too far away for you, but by way of comparison, Fly Illawarra at Shell Harbour charge $240/hr for instruction on a J160. The prices you’re paying at Sale seem a little(?) on the pricey side. 🫤 Also $240/hr for Evektor Sportstar (912ULS with 6 pack) or $260/hr Evektor Harmony (912IS with EFIS) Those 3 prices are RAAus. He did mention it was time to review pricing so I am expecting maybe $20? bump shortly . Edited April 7 by BurnieM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 23 minutes ago, Area-51 said: Have you tried Gawler in SA? should be somebody instructing in Ra there. Bit far away for me. I did think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BurnieM said: Also $240/hr for Evektor Sportstar (912ULS with 6 pack) or $260/hr Evektor Harmony (912IS with EFIS) Those 3 prices are RAAus. He did mention it was time to review pricing so I am expecting maybe $20? bump shortly . Still good prices, even if they add 20. It's good to know from all the replies there are some options out there. Edited April 7 by BrendAn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, BrendAn said: I asked about raaus but he may have not heard me . It does seem to be the right rate for a Piper PA-28. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, Blueadventures said: How much is the Gazelle? As that may be the best for BrendAn as he will be flying the XAir to build hours. Someone will have to ring Oasis again and ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) Also, for the cross country work- that is what will take time, allow at least 20 to 30 hours to get that done. For the base RAaus PC, realistically, you can fly two sessions a day. Three if you are really fit and sleeping well. Might take 20-40hours to complete that depending on your age and brain I think you need a day off for skills and mind soak . The next day, not flying, you think about stuff.... Maybe two days in a row then at least a day off etc. Well, depends on the person. more than 3 days in a row is unrealistic I think- weather, other instructor committments, airplane servicability etc. Edited April 7 by RFguy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 31 minutes ago, RFguy said: Also, for the cross country work- that is what will take time, allow at least 20 to 30 hours to get that done. For the base RAaus PC, realistically, you can fly two sessions a day. Three if you are really fit and sleeping well. Might take 20-40hours to complete that depending on your age and brain I think you need a day off for skills and mind soak . The next day, not flying, you think about stuff.... Maybe two days in a row then at least a day off etc. Well, depends on the person. more than 3 days in a row is unrealistic I think- weather, other instructor committments, airplane servicability etc. I am already solo and have completed all the exams for RPC. Only 4 hrs solo left to go. Not bothered about xcountry for the next couple of years. Just happy to fly around local area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 OK, so you are up to crosswind landings, steep turns, emergency proceedures ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueadventures Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 37 minutes ago, BrendAn said: I am already solo and have completed all the exams for RPC. Only 4 hrs solo left to go. Not bothered about xcountry for the next couple of years. Just happy to fly around local area. Be good to do those 4 hours asap; then you can build more hours in the XAir until you sell it. A good selling point is a plane being currently flown. You may change your mind and keep the Xair a bit longer. They are great to fly; I have fond memories of my Xair flights. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 20 minutes ago, RFguy said: OK, so you are up to crosswind landings, steep turns, emergency proceedures ? Done the emergency procedures. Not much xwind yet. 8 knots is as strong as I have landed in myself. Steep turns I think we're earlier in the syllabus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) IF you stay local more of your errors will be noticed. HA HA. Doing just local is risky. You are limiting your experience to the Familiar getting cues in the circuit you don't have when away.. Sharing fuel cost with someone further along the cross country Path You don't need to actually fly. You still get the exposure to different places . Nev Edited April 7 by facthunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 9 minutes ago, Blueadventures said: Be good to do those 4 hours asap; then you can build more hours in the XAir until you sell it. A good selling point is a plane being currently flown. You may change your mind and keep the Xair a bit longer. They are great to fly; I have fond memories of my Xair flights. Yes. The xair gets flown. I jump in the right seat and drive with a licensed pilot in the left seat. Great fun to fly. Very stable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 7 Author Share Posted April 7 Just now, facthunter said: IF you stay local more of your errors will be noticed. HA HA. Doing just local is risky. You are limiting your experience to the Familiar getting cues in the circuit you don't have when away.. Sharing fuel cost with someone further along the cross country Path You don't need to actually fly. You still get the exposure to different places . Nev I am 57 years old. I don't think I will be making a career out of it.😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I've never seen anyone showing their log book to an eager crowd. 57.? There was a bloke at Newcastle STARTED on tiger moths at age 60. In those days 60 was Old Today it's not. if you're fit and well.. If you are a thinking being you may reconsider the NEED to fly at many stages. None of my Kids wanted to and I didn't push it with them. They are non the worse off and have no trouble keeping busy. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 1 hour ago, facthunter said: I've never seen anyone showing their log book to an eager crowd. 57.? There was a bloke at Newcastle STARTED on tiger moths at age 60. In those days 60 was Old Today it's not. if you're fit and well.. If you are a thinking being you may reconsider the NEED to fly at many stages. None of my Kids wanted to and I didn't push it with them. They are non the worse off and have no trouble keeping busy. Nev I am a bit undecided. I do love flying. It's just getting me down taking so long to get my RPC. When I started I had a great instructor and I was flying 2 or 3 times a week. He moved away. The next instructor was good but he goes up north for half the year. Now I still have good instructors but they are booked out all the time. Running a business makes it hard to book ahead because I never know how busy I am going to be . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 Get your 4 hours off and be able to fly local then sort it out from there when you feel like it and circumstances permit. 3-4 days in Cowra isn't too hard to put up with. to knock that off. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendAn Posted April 8 Author Share Posted April 8 21 minutes ago, facthunter said: Get your 4 hours off and be able to fly local then sort it out from there when you feel like it and circumstances permit. 3-4 days in Cowra isn't too hard to put up with. to knock that off. Nev I agree. I think that's a good plan. Up there you can rely on the weather too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 8 Share Posted April 8 I wouldn't give you a "Guarantee" on the weather ANYWHERE.. If you ask the locals (You have some here) and watch BOM for a while you should be able to get a good indication of developing systems and plan accordingly. "Ordinary" but flyable with a good instructor is fine. He well earn his "Meagre" money and you will get an EXPERIENCE. I recall one time at Lethbridge,I was UP with a pretty good student and it was his OWN aircraft. He said "I don't seem to be getting the Hang of it so well TODAY. I said WELL LOOK... WE are the ONLY ones flying. All the OTHERS are in the clubhouse. so obviously the conditions are NOT ideal. so don't expect too much. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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