DarkSarcasm Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Hi gang, Does anyone know where I can get a cheap(ish) preferably new copy of Stick & Rudder? In the bookshops it's $60 (ouch!) and the cheapest I've found so far on the internet is $32 (inc shipping) on Amazon.com. Anyone got any ideas? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moy71 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 i got mine from ebay at around $30ish. just gotta keep a lookout as it isn't always there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeK Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 I got mine from Dymock's - could have been $60 but I thought it was less ....... Worth it anyway - in real terms only one-third of a lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinghigh Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 I'm a huge fan of Booko: Compare book & DVD prices in Australia with Booko when looking for new books. A search on that site shows that Stick & Rudder can be bought for a little under $26, including shipping, from bookdepository.co.uk (I have no affiliation with either site). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 Booko: Compare book & DVD prices in Australia with Booko[/url] when looking for new books. A search on that site shows that Stick & Rudder can be bought for a little under $26, including shipping, from bookdepository.co.uk (I have no affiliation with either site). What an awesome website, thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted December 26, 2009 Author Share Posted December 26, 2009 Sorry D&S,I've got an original won't part with it Not asking you to, I'm just hunting for cheap prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 I will see about tracking down a supplier so Clear Prop can stock it in the new year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more 28 new from $14.96 43 used at $10.00 plus others slightly dearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neville75 Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Hi gang,Does anyone know where I can get a cheap(ish) preferably new copy of Stick & Rudder? In the bookshops it's $60 (ouch!) and the cheapest I've found so far on the internet is $32 (inc shipping) on Amazon.com. Anyone got any ideas? :) I paid $45 through one of the bigger online pilot shops, so your price of $32 seems quite good. It's well worth the price I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil_S Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Got mine from Amazon, but I agree - the Booko site is excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 26, 2009 Share Posted December 26, 2009 Amazon(UK) Someone may be able to assist me here. With Amazon UK, there appears to be no way out of paying the VAT,17%. When I get special tyres from there the export price is quoted and used, and VAT is not paid. You should not pay VAT on articles sold out of Britain. Who is copping all this money? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metanoia Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Heyah, Try the Book Depository (Free delivery worldwide on all books from The Book Depository) - They're selling it for AU$29.14 - with free shipping. Looks like I'll be getting myself a copy as a post-christmas present :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Qwerty Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Metanoia, Would that be a Free post posted post-Christmas present ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazda Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 I borrowed a copy from a library for free, but thought the book was over-rated. Darky what information are you looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share Posted December 27, 2009 I borrowed a copy from a library for free, but thought the book was over-rated. Darky what information are you looking for? No info in particular, it just seems to be a highly recommended book by lots of people so figured it was worth a read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metanoia Posted December 27, 2009 Share Posted December 27, 2009 Metanoia, Would that be a Free post posted post-Christmas present ?? :kboom: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jhonan Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 AbeBooks Official Site - New & Used Books, New & Used Textbooks, Rare & Out of Print Books for second hand books stick and rudder - AbeBooks First one is $US 11.51, but watch shippng and postage. Jamie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru Phil Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 I borrowed a copy from a library for free, but thought the book was over-rated. Darky what information are you looking for? Well, if you can point out to me any errors in this publication I and others would be interested. I gave some copiess away to some mates a couple of years ago and they and I still use as the BIBLE of flying, Your comments please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moy71 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I can sell you my copy....bought it brand new last year. mint condition. its yours for $30 (postage included). PM me if you are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazda Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Comments for pduthoit. I found it took forever to actually get anywhere, it waffles. The theoretical information was on the light side, and the practical information was a bit on the obvious side. The theory is covered in so many other texts in so much more depth and without the flowery beating around the bush, the practical side is most likely taught from the start by instructors. Things like the landing perspective (which perhaps is why Darky is looking for it?) for instance. Everyone is taught when looking for traffic that the traffic which gets bigger but doesn't move on the screen is the one you are going to hit. It seems pretty obvious that an aiming point for landing is the same. Point the thing where you want to land and keep it there, adjust speed with power. It takes pages and pages. Gliding. Goes on forever about it being some great secret that pointing the nose up or down too far reduces the gliding range. Well, yeah. Just have a look at any lift/drag ratio graph in any student flying book at it is there slapping you in the face. It's covered in detail in the decscending briefing and flight, it's no "secret"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newairly Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 If you just want to read it, it is in Armidale Dumeresq NSW Library. Your local library can get it on inter library loan. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Mazda, I'm very surprised at your comments. Certainly the standard of the writer can be criticised, but I'm amazed that you seem to think this information is readily available - in the RA Aus literture? in the CASA literature? from instructors? You only have to read the posts on this site to know how much people struggle to comprehend aeronautical theory, so why try to squash one of the best sources of information. If you are asserting there are better and more comprehensive publications, let's see what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorticity Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I picked up a copy a while back. It is slow in places and the language is not what you find in magazines or blogs, it was also written in a completely different era. I liked that it related everything to actuall control inputs rather than lift/drag diagrams etc. It can't hurt to have a read and enjoy a book about aviation from when B-17s where the cutting edge. If you want to play aerspace engineer than go get any of the text books authored by Anderson and get ready for some maths and some heavy theory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 You're not kidding there Vorticity. I bought "Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators"and my head's still spinning. Probably works if you're doing it in a working day environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorticity Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Yeah, I have looked at that one. It actually has a great summary of the creation of lift, the best I've seen actually. You can go crazy with all the theory but unless you are designing a new wing it a case of so what. Without the correct context and an unhealthy love for maths it can become a blur of equations. I found that stick and rudder talked in terms of the pilot and no equations; bonus!:thumb_up: everyone has to find what works for them. I think the aerodynamics course on the US AOPA site was a ripper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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