Teckair

I think it is low flyer.

And then you fly low to the end of the beach where there is no where to go if the engine stops.

OK no so one knows, when I was there over 20 years ago I remember it being very long, with plenty of room to safely land a light aircraft.

Can anyone advise how long aeroplane beach is and what end the accident happened?

I was impressed it stayed up the right way and the nose wheel appeared to not collapse considering how rough the paddock appeared to be.

As you must know on a grass strip there is rolling resistance to the wheels. We do not know what happened I just know what it looked like to me.

At the point it tipped l would have thought full back stick and 25% power would have been about right not tail up and heaps of power.

Then there is the P factor, someone has said the c of g is only just behind the uc how much hp? maybe 2000? Thrust line is well above the wheel friction on the ground.

It is admirable people don't want to automatically blame the pilot but there are two videos with sound and you can hear the power being used before the aircraft has built up any real speed it could only ever end up that way.

Going by the video I don't think that is correct, but even if that was true all the more reason to handle it with care with power and tail height. As for soft ground and flat tyres hopefully the guy did a preflight and checked the condition of the runway. I am bewildered as to why anybody would want make up excuses for the miss handling of that aircraft.

Mmmmm don't think the Spitfire is a poor design anybody who thinks this is not pilot error doesn't understand what happened IMHO. The second video should eliminate any doubt.

Not exactly a Spitfire pilot myself but tailwheel experience all the same. IMHO tail was up too high too soon too slow. It looked for all the world like this was the first time this guy had flown that plane. You can treat some tail draggers that way but not that one.

I thought it was too slow for that much power. Yes you would think someone sitting in that seat would be capable of flying it.

Don't know what went wrong there elevator looks neutral and then up maybe too much power to quickly. With those things you have to open the throttle slowly in stages to get some airflow over the control surfaces before full power.

A friend of mine aquired a Sonerie kit when he saw how the wings were attached he abandoned the project.

Some one said he bought the plane to do aerobatics does anybody know if they are rated for that? Some one also said they saw a wing fall off. 19 rego is not aerobatic.

It can be done, pilots are not supposed to crash if their ASI stops working, I used to instruct from the back seat of drifters with no instruments. One thing for sure I would never have attempted what this bloke did.

Wow they did well to get out of that.

There are some who think powered parachutes are really safe but I think that might be wrong.

I think its a fake also pretty risky landing though. A lot of people learnt to fly with no lessons in the early days and all that I saw flew better than that.

Yes I find it a mystery as well and people blaming the building for the deaths seems wrong to me I thought it was going to crash anyway.

Yes but this got well past that didn't it?

No worries I know what you mean that does apply to our sort of flying. For city airports people are relying on engines not stopping or being able to continue on with one which is what should have happened with this sad event.

Frank I was talking about using the radio and not flying the plane as you will know many city airports do not have options for out landings. The throttle friction post is an example of something that could be missed if you are on the radio.

Any body else had an efoto? I have and the last thing that came to mind was talking on the radio. You have to fly the plane and seconds are all you have to try to survive.