Teckair

Can anybody confirm that is correct? as it does not sound right to me.

I agree to me the spin theory is almost certain. Expect more W&B requirements coming up.

Probably not realistic to expect Terry to do a weight and balance every time he got the plane out. RAAus training planes should not be prone to spinning normally you would need low air speed and out of balance crossed controls to induce a spin then the plane should spin nose down not flat. The plane should recover from the spin just by having the controls centralised. A flat spin usually will be caused by the plane being tail heavy. I was told a story about one of Australia's best aerobatic pilots who put a aero bat into a spin and had trouble getting it out of it, turned out someone had fitted a HF radio behind the seat. When instructing if there was any doubts about the W&B I did not do stalls.

Several times in the past I have had students that froze on the controls, at the time I was strong enough to over power them but if not there would have been a problem. People say you have hit them to snap them out of it but I am not sure how practical that would be, you could end up with a punch up in the cockpit.

Not having access to investigations has been a problem for years.

News to me who told you that?

Oh good is there a new policy where we get to find out the result of investigations?

RAA aircraft are not supposed to go into a flat spin. Tail heavy can cause that and is hard to recover from.

I find this a disturbing event that poor woman.

Another sad event. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-25/helicopter-crash-near-mackay-carmila-one-person-dead/7276852

It probably did make a difference as the general public were put at risk.

After that the Ops team covered complacency with experienced pilots in their column.

Really? Dead sticked it in to what looks like less than 100 metres over obstacles? Not too much concern? How good would that pilot have to be?

Wow how short can a Terrier land?

Yes I am not sure how they did that the plane looks intact and on its wheels in a confined area.

Maybe but I can see that going wrong.

And that was just the start of his problems.

I thought you did alright in the circumstances you had.

You might be low hours but you are right on with your view.

Correct for only some aircraft with a low inertia, high drag ultralight it is nose down immediately. Probably not an option for half a VW as they are usually hand/prop started.

There was a period of time when flooding was problem. I now stand by this comment and withdraw the apology for making it.

Have you done it yourself? With a tail wheel? I suspect not. At one time I needed to land on a road multiple times, I checked the part of road in question on the ground first for wires and obstacles. Before landing I circled above the road to try and make sure there were no cars coming from both directions this was not as easy as you might imagine. Then when you think it is all clear, (and I had to wait for traffic to clear some times,) you had to get down on the road as quick as possible before more traffic came along. Despite these precautions one time while I was taxying to a driveway I had permission to use a car did appear and drive under the wing. I found the easiest part was the actual touch down but there was so much more to it than that. There are many different road situations some better than others but to make a blanket statement as you have done just backs up my earlier statement which I got condemned for from several people.

That would be heart breaking.

I thought I did that.

Sorry I thought I was alerting low hour guys that some of what was posted was bad advice.