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Some the states where cases were heard and dismissed we have: Arizona Georgia Nevada New Mexico Texas Wisconsin Are you saying that these states have Democrat appointed or Dem leaning courts? Most of these states are quite conservative. Next you will be telling me that "if you can get the bleach inside or if there were some way we could get light inside the body we could fix covid"

OK I thought we were this but I must admit I am not on top of it. Registering as a company Charitable and not-for-profit organisations can be registered as public companies limited by guarantee. This means the liability of the company’s members is limited. The limit is usually the amount members will contribute to the property of the company if it is wound up. Registration of a company creates a legal entity separate from its members. This means the company can hold property and sue or be sued.

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He does state near the end of the clip that after seeing how it flies he would work on improving aerodynamics by fitting aerodynamic struts and sealing gaps. This would not be my cup of tea but there are many who just love low and slow.

I am definitely not saying that EVs are cheap especially in this country. If they were cheaper I would definitely buy one. I think at the top end they are competitive. As an example my son (lives in NZ) is fairly well well off and could also be described as a petrol head, owning a few interesting cars and competes in motor sport. His daily drive was a 5 series BMW which had got to the age where the transmission was going to require vast amounts of money. To buy this car new was about the same cost as a Tesla 3P but the Tesla performs better and is cheaper to run (about $12 a week in electricity -off peak at home) I think at the cheaper end of the market it is not yet there on a purely economical basis. Cost is not the only factor when we buy a car. Some people opt to buy a large 4wd for their daily city driving. They could buy a basic cheap car but they choose the car that they want to drive. Some people love the technology and are willing to pay more for it. The price and range of EVs improves each year and at some point will definitely be the cheaper option. If you look at the plans of the major car companies the future is clear. And on the main topic Homemade Electric Airplane MK4

plus running costs, petrol Vs electricity

I have absolutely no problem with EV drivers paying and equivalent amount what ever that is. Bit of a non issue. Just pointing out that even if it is not yet enough it surely still would be considered significant if not equal. I am most definitely not arguing for a free kick for EV owners in terms of tax.

I have downsized so my roof space is limited. My system works very well because my panels are spit between east, north and west giving a good output from sunrise to sunset.

To be clear I have no problem with every user paying for road infrastructure. I think $375 a year would be a significant contribution.

Not an insubstantial amount "If the proposal is approved, owners of electric cars registered in the state of Victoria would pay 2.5 cents per kilometre – or about $375 per year based on the national annual average distance travelled of 15,000km" I am not sure exactly what this means because it does not define "what people can afford" None the less this is somewhat relevant. A more interesting figure would be to compare the like for like new price. I don't believe EVs are generally 2 to 2.5 x more than a petrol equivalent. As someone who imports a large amount from my solar to the grid I would of course like the highest price, A fair price needs to include the price of getting my solar to the grid (poles and wires etc.) I also have to accept that sometimes the grid does not want or need all of my power therefore some of my input is curtailed. I produce more power than I need and a battery is looking more and more economically viable especially as the prices fall My system produces an excess of around 1.5 MWh a year over what I use. There are also new programs whereby you can allow the network extremely limited access to draw small amounts of power to help with peak times. (you get paid for this.) Community batteries are another interesting area. My solar powers this comfortably. I would agree with you here if we did it overnight but as experience throughout the world shows we can move towards better ways of generating and distributing energy. My KWh price from my power company recently dropped by 3 cents a kilowatt at a time when renewables are increasing. I do look at the AEMO Mix summary chart regularly. Right now in Victoria wind and solar account for 37% and hydro 3%, Brown coal is 60% And Tasmania is 100% renewables at the moment. Of course they do have geographical advantages. Back to planes Be interesting to see how this company goes in the future Australia's first electric plane company set to fly in SA

Not just expensive electrical motors. A Rotax 912 costs a small fortune when compared to car engines.

I am not arguing that they are cheap I am saying that the technology exists and works. In your post you suggested that : "That power is being distributed through four motors in a car, so the first issue is to find a motor which for a Rag and Tube would need to produce about 80 hp(60kW) from the one engine. Instead of a four branch electrical circuit you would have one, but its cables would need to be heavier." Most EVs do not have 4 motors, perhaps. am misunderstanding what you mean here? My point is that suitable motors do exist for example the EA-811 https://www.pipistrel-aircraft.com/aircraft/electric-flight/e-811/ Sure at this point is it probably pricey and I have no idea how it compares price wise to a 912. These motors and aircraft are flying now. The price and range will continue to improve. Perhaps local manufacturing will help with progress https://www.australianflying.com.au/latest/electric-pipistrels-to-be-built-in-adelaide I am all for innovation.

69000 Euros

I am not saying it is cheap but that it is possible. I am not sure of the actual price but I will have a look. New technology is usually expensive at first and if adopted the price falls. I am not sure how many of these aircraft have been sold. The economics may make sense to a flying school. Most of us here may not be able to afford this but that applies to many new technologies.

I can certainly understand that. It is always great to see simpler cheaper flying but also exciting to see clever innovation.

Victoria is set to become the first state in Australia to introduce a tax on electric vehicles. From July 1, owners of fully electric cars in Victoria will pay 2.5 cents per kilometre and owners of hybrids will be slugged two cents per kilometre. This will be paid at registration time and is forecast to cost drivers up to $300 each year.

The NRMA has built and is rapidly expanding its charger network including in regional areas including Ultra-rapid chargers 350kw. I imagine this is worth so much more to NRMA EV drivers than a free WOF check.

With regard to the apparent blade moving the wrong way, the NASA sight has the same video and gives it this caption. The Ingenuity Mars Helicopter’s carbon fiber blades can be seen in this video taken by the Mastcam-Z instrument aboard NASA's Perseverance Mars rover on April 8, 2021, the 48th Martian day, or sol, of the mission. They are performing a wiggle test before the actual spin-up to ensure they were working properly. Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/ASU

I wouldn't argue with this and I think at the lower end of the market EVs are at the moment overpriced but to do a full and fair comparison you have to factor in running costs such as fuel and maintenance. An EV most definitely has higher up front cost and this is a deterrent. It is often the case that those with a little more disposable income are in a better position to invest in technology that will save them money over its lifetime. An example would be investing in rooftop solar, a case of upfront costs vs lower power cost over future years. Speaking of solar, my rooftop produces an excess of power. I sell (for a poor return) 1.5MWh per annum back to the grid. If I did own an EV I know where I would be putting this excess power>

I don't really understand the animosity towards EVs. If you don't like them then don't buy one. I think most car manufacturers have announced end dates for IC car production at around the 2035. This means in 2034 you can buy a shiny new IC car and keep it for as long as you want. I think the biggest factor in the changeover will be more determined by cost rather than legislation.

I can see that with 2021 infrastructure it would be difficult to support the number of EVs expected to be on the road by 2035. Infrastructure usually has to keep up with new technologies. We are not taking about an overnight change. Although people do make long trips in EVs it may well be that for the foreseeable future a driver who travels interstate may feel an EV is not for them. Most EV owners charge at home overnight for probably 95% of there journeys. Yep, no petrol from electrically powered fuel pumps.

I am pretty sure it was only an illusion caused by frame rate. If they were indeed spinning the wrong way then perhaps this was intentional. By the way here is a video made a while ago showing the building and testing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsZUZmJvaM

Obviously a 30 minute flight is not of great use but neither was Wilbur and Orville's early flights. The world's largest electric plane just took its first flight

Did they?