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ACs are not legislation are they? But I guess they could be invoked as demonstrating the spirit of the law. The "law" as far as I understand it says that under 60deg is NOT acrobatic, it does not say over 60deg IS. Absolutely. I'm not trying to condone any sort of aerobatic flight (in RAA) or trying to stretch the limits, nor do I condone the apparent bank angle shown in the news story. What I am doing is exploring the legal framework within which I am expected to stay when I am flying. And more and more I am finding it is a fading shade of gray.

Been trawling through the rules too and (as usual) I cannot see anywhere which says a bank angle over 60deg is definitely acrobatic. What they do say is that under 60deg bank (and 30deg pitch) is NOT considered acrobatic. They do give a couple specific limits in that over 3G and under -1G is considered acrobatic. How much bank do you need to pull 3G (assuming you are maintaining level flight)?

Welcome Glint! Same as me... another young 47yo student living the dream (at last).

The Flying Nun?

Wagga is pretty easy Gnome, the training area is bounded by 5 towns and diagonally across it between Wagga and Coolamon there is a range of hills(behind the wing in the last photo) and a road. And if you really get stuck, The Rock Hill is a very distinctive landmark south west of Wagga that's visible for 50 miles at least. So I have it pretty good. My main worry was the Cherokee doing T&Gs and realising a couple miles out I was going to arrive downwind at the same place as him. I ended up doing a 360 turn to make space before joining. Then I realised that wasn't so smart as I lost sight of him. But I spotted him again and called that I had him sighted and was joining number 2. Then momentary panic again when a female voice answered (without identifying)! Madly looked around wondering how I had missed a second aircraft....then relief as I realised it was the instructor in the same aircraft. Good learning experience.

I did my first training area solo on Saturday and very nice conditions here too. Canola crops are in full flower, and I've always wanted a photo of this from the air, so I made sure I took a camera..... The mighty metropolis of Wagga Wagga. The jagged hill left of centre near the horizon is The Rock Hill. On climb to 4500 Looking North Looking South towards "The Rock"

Not taking away from the absolute tragedy of these two accidents...but in the same 24 hour period that these crashes happened, there would have been around 90 deaths on America's roads (2009 US road toll = 33,963). Just as tragic, but unnoticed by the media who think that the US has been "rocked" by the airshow/race accidents.

Well done win! Wishing you continued happiness!

With all the great improvements to the magazine I note that one thing has not changed. It has been a part of the mag since I started buying it a couple years ago....the Puddlejumper floats are still for sale!

Ahh the joys of living out in the Residuals. Got mine yesterday too.

I want the tv and movie rights

Darks is the Chosen One

Yaaay Pud! Can't wait for the video. (edit: the smiley looks like he stop and thinks, works things out and then goes flying...thought it suited you Pud)

Gooooo Pud!

Edit: Found the answer to my question in the other thread

I flew my school's P92 Eaglet again last weekend for the first time in six months and was back in the P2002 Sierra today, so it was good chance to compare the two. The P92 is very nice, but the Sierra is magic (in my very inexperienced opinion). It's even harder to get the Sierra to stop flying. The Sierra is more responsive and lighter in the controls, especially in pitch. I usually fly and land the Sierra with a thumb and one or two fingers. However, I can see from Evan's experience I've been spoilt. When I get my cert I might have to go over to the dark side, to the other school, and tame the Jabiru beast. It'll have to be while my school's not looking....don't want to get in the bad books. There's a Tecnam Twin in the hangar that I have to walk past every time I have a lesson. It whispers in my ear every time I pass... "fly me". *Sigh* :big_grin: (edit: and the R44 helo in the same hangar doesn't bother to whisper...it yells out!)

Not an option!

Hey Brett....can I be your friend too?

Good to see you are making productive use of your "holiday" win:big_grin: However, I can picture a few of the listeners recoiling in horror at the prospect of a person with less hours than an L plate driver flying an aircraft over the top of them. *sigh*

Glad to see all this pressure to perform is not getting to you Pud....the consummate safe aviator. However, when you DO fly it we want video! We don't care what it takes, we need video! :big_grin: Cheers, Peter

Ahh yes...looking again I think you're right. The rudder is hard right and then goes hard left just as the cameraman's left arm goes across the field of view. All the frames through 4.55 appear to show left rudder. So the recovery was started within seconds of the last jumper exiting. Thanks David, it's fun to analyse something like this and it's rare to be able to see a spin from inside and outside the aircraft like that.

From the other forum there was a statement that the pilot thought he was in a spiral dive. In slow motion I can see the elevator still up and right aileron down as the last jumper exited. That isn't quite correct for spiral dive recovery either is it? Isn't it roll out of the spiral and then pull out of the dive? Perhaps in panic he just did the instinctive thing and tried to pull up and roll level at the same time?

Rats like chewing through stuff too. So far an air brake line on our truck and chewed completely through the belt on our cup elevator (for shifting grain). $2,000-3,000 damage.

As a comparison...check out the Jabiru USA site