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Some of the key staff are of retirement age........

Another CAMit improvement to the Jab engine Rod didn't want to take up. A Nordlock washer is cheaper! I suspect.

Can we please get back to the thread CAMit Closing. I am not interested in the political reasons why. More interested in what can be done to help those that have bought a CAMit engine and now have something that is no longer supported. Those who purchased helped to support a local buisiness unlike the main user of the engine who has gone offshore due price.

Agree Oscar. Orders to CAMit only went one way this year. Can anyone confirm that the aircraft moulds have left Bundy?

Isn't closing?......Has closed as of last Friday. Aviation manufacturer closure a sign of the times, industry insider says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Yes me to. Email back within about 30 minutes of registering an interest. Website being created so more to come soon.

Dont agree. Ask Jab why they started developing their own engine giving less and less orders to Camit - their engine supplier for many years. Camit had to try and stay in buisness.

Employees are having to claim their entitlements through the Fed Gov system as per the Qld Nickle (Palmer) employees fiasco in Townsville. Forms handed out to the 22 Camit employees by the Accountants as I am informed. comment was also made that some of the plant equip was getting tired!

Looks like 7A (nose wheel version). Mike

I dont believe CASA had alot to do with this. They were doing their job in my opinion. The problem was Jabiru believing there was nothing wrong with the current engine/s. Camit trying to improve the product and succeding. Jabiru wanting no part if it and moving to another supplier probably cheaper but appears some time before being released. Camit getting minimal orders from Jab for the 3300 and Camits 3300 still getting a name for itself in the field. Costs mount up and now we have the outcome we shouldnt of had. Loose loose all round.

What shenanigans?

Last few weeks, wages approx 30k per week. 2.5 - 3.0 engines per week plus a few parts for Jabiru. Little or no parts production by the plant machinists for past month due stock on the shelves awaiting sales/assy. I am told plant was offered to Jabiru some time back but rejected.

Allegedly Handed over to accountants so looks like Receivership.

Not sure about the Bathawk, what about all the aircraft with the Jab 3300 installed? Camit supplied parts for that model. Heads and cranks etc.

Camit closed as of 1pm today. Aviation manufacturer closure a sign of the times, industry insider says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Sad day.

Col, hopefully there will be no 95-10 or any of the other orders currently in existence. Have one order allowing any aircraft up to say 600kg MTOW. Have the designer / builder set the weight within the 0-600kg. That's how it's done in UK, Canada, NZ etc. Drop the requirement for factory built for training. NZ and other countries can build an aircraft from a kit and use that aircraft for training.

Bob, you said two posts above Jabiru were sourcing there parts elsewhere. My understanding is Camit were still manufacturing some 3300 parts for Jabiru. Crankshafts etc...

Jabiru are still testing their new 2200 engine. How far from being sold I am not sure. I have not heard that they are doing any work on a 3300 version. This could be a problem IF they are relying on CMIT for a supply of parts.

Gliders are registered VH. Administered by the GFA incl issuing Pilot Licence/Certificates. E&LAAA would come under the same system. This is how it operates in UK, Canada, USA and NZ etc.

I think the problems started when Rod started working on using foreign bits and pieces in his engine and wouldn't work with Ian to improve the existing Jab engine (Rod believed the engine was fine and that it was the way it was maintained causing the failures). Ian had ideas and worked to successfully improve the engines reliability and then started to sell the engine as a CAE badged unit. I am told that there are about a 100 changes in the CAE from the Jab. Little things like loctite here or a washer there. Even the last few engines assembled by Camit for Jab were still mostly to the Jab Specifications. They would not or could not add the CAMIT changes. I don't know how Jab are going to be able to supply parts for their existing engines that CAMIT have been making up until now. How long before Jab releases their new engine and what happens to those engines out there now when parts are required? Time will tell.

A Camit employee advises they were all layed off today.

It may be that CASA are going to allow a sub 600kg class and have organisations like E&LAAA issue a Pilot Certificate. This follows along the lines of NZ. Upgrade to a RPL and those pilots would have access to aircraft up to 1500kg MTOW. Seems like a good idea to me.

I wonder if RAAus or ELAAA will take up the offer? Excellent idea Ian. This resource gets better by the day. Many thanks for the time and money you are throwing at it. Mike

CAE engine S/N up to 130 for 3300 and S/N 30 for 2200. This as of a week or so back. Employees say things are very quiet.

I have a feeling that this new group will succeed. If the aircraft are VH registered as appears to be the case then I am sure controlled airspace access will be available subject to transponder requirements etc. I know there are regular meetings between CASA Sport Aviation section and the NZ CAA. Controlled airspace is avbl to NZ Pilot Cert Holders. There are two organisations running side by side in NZ with a much smaller aviation sector numbers wise than here in Aus so I am sure another well run organisation could exist. We will see.