facthunter Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 The Fisher stuff is very attractive and usually of wood and fabric construction. The ownership transferred from Michael Fisher in the late 90's I think. He went into some venture called the Waco 3 or something like that. The older trading name was Fisher Flying Corp. Don't bet your house on all of this. It's my best recollection. HE actually built the Fisher Horizon 2 that I owned which used steel tube in the fuselage construction . A rather unusual thing for the Marque. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 FFP Celebrity photographed at YBDG: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 You can see that plane is better proportioned with the heavier Rotec Radial engine and doesn't have an access to the front seat problem as there isn't one. As a useless bit of info the DH82 had swept back upper wings to allow better access to the front seat than it's predecessor the Gypsy Moth which was all wooden construction. The DH82 A had a steel fuselage which was later reinforced to allow flick manouvers on some planes The Murphy Renegade probably has a stronger frame than the Celebrity. Murphy make the Kits for Rebel and even the bigger Moose All metal planes.. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlyT Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Still looking for a biplane? i am selling mine: Renegade with Rotec radial R2800 7 cylinder (Middenmeer EHMM, Netherlands, Europe) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodgerc Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Looks like a very nicely built aircraft CharlyT. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Peter Franks had one at Lethbridge. Originally built by Ted Hardcastle.. It had an "event" and Peter rebuilt it. It had a Rotax 912 in it. Very attractive aircraft. White with Red. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Beautifully finished. Good luck with your sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlyT Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Thanks for compliments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Certainly looks the Part with the Rotec radial in it. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methusala Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Probably too cold in Holland for an open cockpit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Would one of Forum experts please tell me, what the attraction is, in a radial engine, besides is obvious retro look? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano747 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) sound , As it's torque is at low revolutions. Just like a Harley, only better . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_76NV_JhM8 spacesailor Edited April 17 by spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 19 minutes ago, Deano747 said: Torque Okay - I assume this means a courser pitch prop can be used for improved high speed cruise???? 2 minutes ago, spacesailor said: sound , As it's torque is at low revolutions. Just like a Harley, only better . spacesailor You jest! - All that extra trouble for a sound????? Okay gents - now tell me what are the disadvantaged ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) Maintenance. IF , you can fly with two cylinders. Your Maintenance is minimal. But . Electric is better. Maintenance is less than minimal. spacesailor Edited April 17 by spacesailor Missed 3 words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Short crankshaft and the Big end is lightly loaded in cruise. Even length intake pipes and easier to cool and supercharge It's a completely different feel and SOUND.. Downside. A bit hard to oil scavenge. That has to be done right.. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 (edited) On 15/04/2024 at 12:37 AM, CharlyT said: Still looking for a biplane? i am selling mine: Renegade with Rotec radial R2800 7 cylinder (Middenmeer EHMM, Netherlands, Europe) Lekker ☺️ Edited April 17 by danny_galaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 15 hours ago, facthunter said: Short crankshaft and the Big end is lightly loaded in cruise. Even length intake pipes and easier to cool and supercharge It's a completely different feel and SOUND.. Downside. A bit hard to oil scavenge. That has to be done right.. Nev Thanks Nev - Some practical benefits then. They look very complicated ? Costly to manufacture ? & maintain ? Does their large frontal have negative impacts on airframe efficiency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 A GEE BEE goes fast enough. On larger planes the drag would be similar All cylinders are the same Bottom end is more complex so is ignition timing as the stroke is not the same in all cylinders.TBO is comparable with anything else. Reduction gear is sun and planetary Thats the best. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenaroo Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 sound is important. same reason we all want a V8 ford... when the turbo 6 is a better car we all miss the V10 era of formula 1 for the sound. or get excited at the startup of a Merlin atmosphere (not the physical kind) is a huge reason of flying recreational. especially for someone like me who flies once every 3 months for an hour. its why I choose to pursue tail wheel - its a whole experience, more visceral if im taking off and landing at the same point. then I 100% want the most emotive experience in that time. its what makes it so so satisfying and keeps me going with that feeling high though-out the day, buzzing from that time in the seat. the feeling of the aircraft is as important as the scenery 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 The feel of the Plane, It's controllability, look and sound are all part of the aura. IF you're aim is to get to places and back ON TIME use a Jet and even they are delayed by weather sometimes.. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny_galaga Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 8 hours ago, skippydiesel said: Thanks Nev - Some practical benefits then. They look very complicated ? Costly to manufacture ? & maintain ? Does their large frontal have negative impacts on airframe efficiency? How fast is a Sea Fury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Fastest Piston engine is service at the time. They flew in Korea.. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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