jamel Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 http://www.news.com.au/national/light-plane-crashes-at-primary-school-injuring-pilot-and-passenger/story-fndo4cq1-1226586890487 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabiruWeekendWarrior Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Crash in Ballarat Victoria near school. Yahoo news reports the plane as a " two-engine Cessna". The aircraft looks like a 2 seat ultalight similar to a Euofox with 24 Registration. Either the photo is incorrect or Ra-aus now allows registration of heavier aircraft. Or perhaps poor reporting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsefeathers Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Funniest looking 2 engine Cessna I've ever seen Quote from the news report: "The two-engine Cessna clipped power lines before crashing into a field at Cape Clear Primary School, Cape Clear, about 1.50pm." This photo from here: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/16254045/plane-makes-emergency-landing-in-schoolyard/ Could be a power line in the undercarriage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 It's a 19 reg... Savannah? http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/men-escape-injury-after-plane-crashes-into-schoolyard-20130227-2f5kw.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virago Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 A twin engined Cessna huh? Looks more like an ultralight to me. Glad the crew injuries were only minor scratching and bruising and that no children were involved.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsefeathers Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 But HOW do you manage to bend the wings like that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ding Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Just returned from the scene. Not in the school yard, in the paddock next door. Pilot and Pax checked by the ambo's 100% OK. Can't say the same for the Savannah though. Precautionary landing when the weather closed in around them Saw every power line except the one you can see in the photo above. No more speculation from me. Leave the rest up to the investigators. See ya, Ding. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 That has to be the most complete and absolute wing failure I've ever seen. How many places has it broken? ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidg Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 One of those news links say it was a THREE engine Cessna!! Bloody reporters.......they need a slap tp the side of the face ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 This one probably doesn't need an investigator Ding, the second last line probably pings it as pure bad luck. Not surprising they would have to put down either, it's a very unstable day in Victoria as you can see from the photos - blue sky one minute, down to the ground and thunderstorms the next. Spent some time today under Moorabbin's Carrum entry point which is uncomfortably close to the southern coastal approach to Melbourne. With airshow traffic around there was a complete overlap with aircraft going in all directions. At one stage a southbound executive jet missed a northbound DC3 by maybe a couple of hundred metres, with the DC3 in VMC but the jet in IMC charging through about 5 octas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Thought it has done well. The centre section is intact out to both of the strut attach points. From there they appear to be crushed. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 CFA has a few photos on their facebook page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 A Cessna?? at least it keeps our ultralight reporting clean. Alan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 its a Savannah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Walked away from it and the kids will have something to think about for the rest of the term. That's a win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I've never been able to understand the preoccupation of the media with light aircraft accidents especially since they rarely seem to know what they are talking about. I once read a report in an Australian newspaper about a Pitts Special that made a forced landing at an intersection in Oshkosh Wisconsin, thats about the same as reporting an Australian single car accident in the Chicago Herald (or whatever their newspaper is called) Must admit though I am curious how they managed to do that to the wings! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 and a late rego too only newly amateur built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 The three engine Cessna ploughed into the Cape Clear Primary School yard, about 38 kilometres south-west of Ballarat, about 1.30pm on Wednesday. Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/men-escape-injury-after-plane-crashes-into-schoolyard-20130227-2f5kw.html#ixzz2M4sa0kqs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 But HOW do you manage to bend the wings like that? Thought it has done well. The centre section is intact out to both of the strut attach points. From there they appear to be crushed. Nev Must admit though I am curious how they managed to do that to the wings! I thought it was both wings too but careful check of the pics show it is only the port wing (with rego numbers) that is bent. In the photo of starboard side of plane you can see the starboard wingtip and undamaged starboard aileron/flapperon. I'd love to have a look at the failure mode of that port wing, I just can't fathom such a multiple failure. Does that indicate the spar failing in buckling (twisting outboard of the struts)? Or compression failure because the plane hit the ground stationary and knife-edge on the port wingtip? Beats me! Can anyone tell me the spar type on the Savannah? Folded C section with aly sheet D nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherk Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 [quote="Ding, post: 278214, Precautionary landing when the weather closed in around them Saw every power line except the one you can see in the photo above. Ding. Bloody BadLuck!! gotta watch those SWER lines .....ya CAN'T see the buggas !.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherk Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 [quote="Head in the clouds, post: 278239, Can anyone tell me the spar type on the Savannah? Folded C section with aly sheet D nose? 25 thou web with 3/4 X 3/4 X 0.1 spar caps ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 25 thou web with 3/4 X 3/4 X 0.1 spar caps ..... Mmm, that's light for a 50% strutter but probably calcs out right on the numbers. Any idea of the rivet spacing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 They hit a powerline the plane has come down on the wing and folded it up then the nose has impacted. The mainspar is alu sheet riveted to top and bottom angle alu the spar is very strong and not made by the builder it is supplied completed by ICP. The plane has hit the wire and ended up with the wing hitting the ground that is why it is floded over like that..the struts are intact and so is most...pretty good outcome I would think...shows just how strong the aircraft are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Pics of the wing and spar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Arthur Williams was the pilot was just on Ch 7 news they interviewed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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