Robbo Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 The whingers are out in force....... Better than listening to people humping in the next apartment like what I had to put up with in the hotel the other night!!!! http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/helicopter-noise-annoying-east-melbourne-people/news-story/93a87979f1a2eb114c0b10d776124a59 INNER city residents say an increase in aircraft noise is ruining their quality of life and their health. Figures from Air Services Australia reveal about 1800 helicopters flew over East Melbourne in the first six months of 2015, much to the annoyance of local residents. Most were tourist joy flights transporting high flying clients to major sporting events such as the AFL Grand Final or the Melbourne Cup. Residents say the favoured route through the city for helicopters and light aircraft tends to be via the Melbourne Cricket Ground and the Yarra River. Many of these flights arrive from Essendon Airport heading in a north/south direction over the East Melbourne area. Murray Hohnen, from the East Melbourne Group, said the group has long been concerned about the noise and safety impacts of frequent low level flights by aircraft and helicopters over residential areas. He said residents main concern was with the increased number of joy flights, flights relating to sports events, and training flights — not flights by emergency services. “It’s a daily problem with helicopter and light aircraft buzzing around,” Mr Hohnen said. “On Grand Final day, one helicopter hovered over the MCG for more than an hour.” The City of Melbourne says it has received complaints from several East Melbourne residents about increased aircraft noise plus residents of Siddeley St in South Wharf who live close to a helipad. A noise survey of residents revealed that 86 per cent of people stated that their quality of live was being negatively affected by aircraft noise. While regulations require most helicopters and small aircraft to fly at a minimum of 1000 feet, regulations are silent on key issues such as flight paths, times of operation and minimum heights for hovering. The council is now seeking to develop Fly Neighbourly Agreements (FNA) with helicopter operators to safely manage the large numbers of flights and consider issues such as early morning and evening flight curfews. The two small helipads located on the Yarra River are both operated by private companies. Clem Newton-Brown, a director of Whitemark Property and Planning, said helicopter transport was in danger of being squeezed out of Melbourne. He said the time has come for Victoria to designate some specific areas for helicopter landing within the CBD and ensure these rights are protected into the future. “With the explosion in inner city residential living the time has come to consider a dedicated Melbourne heliport in an appropriate location to ensure that this unique form of transport is secure into the future,” he said. “If helicopters are run out of the CBD, regional tourism and emergency services will suffer. “With “fly neighbourly” agreements in place there is no reason why we cannot continue to support an industry which has been operating incident free in the CBD for over 50 years” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 “On Grand Final day, one helicopter hovered over the MCG for more than an hour.” Yeah, that sort of crap needs to be knocked on the head, people don't need to suffer just so Channel## can get a better camera angle. The whingers are out in force....... Better than listening to people humping in the next apartment like what I had to put up with in the hotel the other night!!!! Which Hotel and room number was that again, just to make sure I avoid it in the future .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 12, 2016 Author Share Posted February 12, 2016 Better turn off the ceiling van then, oi next time don't make so much noise !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Yeah, that sort of crap needs to be knocked on the head, people don't need to suffer just so Channel## can get a better camera angle Drones will fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Drones will fix that. Well that's one way to shoot the Heli down I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 These whingers will change their tune when/if they find themselve in dire need of medical aid and transport to the best trauma facilities - the terrible helicopter noise will be the best sound they've ever heard. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDavies Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 It doesn't matter what activity you do, there will always be some antis with nothing better to do than complain about it. Way too many people out there who complain if people are doing something with their time other than sitting down in front of the TV like they are. They cant stand it that someone else is having more fun than they are. It makes it hard for small businesses to get a start in so many tourism or sporting ventures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBob Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'd think there will be ongoing tension on this one, and the answer is neither black nor white: Some of the more remote bush areas of NZ have terrific walks and tramps, typically through and over mountain ranges. But there is also a growing problem with tourist flight operators, aggravated by the wonderful acoustics of big rocky mountain valleys: it doesn't take too many tourist operators to turn the wilderness experience to one of tramping through a continuous air-raid. Don't get me wrong, I love aircraft and the sound of them...but there are some places where that doesn't fit, and is always going to be an aggravation or worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi303 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 These whingers will change their tune when/if they find themselve in dire need of medical aid and transport to the best trauma facilities - the terrible helicopter noise will be the best sound they've ever heard. The article doesn't have them whinging about the heliambulance services, but the regular tourist joyrides ,and the sports days VIP trips to the games on the big days. Looking at some NZ tourism trips, 40 min flights every hour on the hour daily in good weather... If I lived under that and wasn't deaf, I'd be muttering about commercial activities in a residential zone as well. Add a fleet of rich cats shuttling to their boxes on game day instead of having to fume their way through snarled streets and full parking to get to the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 I'd think there will be ongoing tension on this one, and the answer is neither black nor white:Some of the more remote bush areas of NZ have terrific walks and tramps, typically through and over mountain ranges. But there is also a growing problem with tourist flight operators, aggravated by the wonderful acoustics of big rocky mountain valleys: it doesn't take too many tourist operators to turn the wilderness experience to one of tramping through a continuous air-raid. Don't get me wrong, I love aircraft and the sound of them...but there are some places where that doesn't fit, and is always going to be an aggravation or worse. Grasping with that is the job of Planners, and involves many more people than you would think, and much more public consultation, including both the people affecting the Amenity and the people whose amenity is reduced. States and Councils, in Australia adopt an overview of the best way certain precincts should be developed, and evolve a basket of Planning Schemes, development policies and laws to try to achieve that. For example Melbourne currently has Plan Melbourne 2050 Refresh http://www.planmelbourne.vic.gov.au/ which thousands of people have contributed to including successive governments from both sides of politics, and once these plans are hammered out and adopted usually in a bipartisan way, The thousands of Planning Officers around the State are expected to approve development applications which comply with the plan. The news story I read was about East Melbourne, where the houses were there first, and drifted on to other parts of the inner City. As someone said this issue will start to die down as the lower cost of drones kicks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 can't be long before the gov gets serious about pedophiles in helicopters, after this became a possible argument against above ground rail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 can't be long before the gov gets serious about pedophiles in helicopters, after this became a possible argument against above ground rail I think it's wonderful that you, as busy as you are, would step all the way down to reality to give Mrs Browning some support. However, if Mrs Browning had cared to read the widely disseminated report, maps, and plans, she would have seen that the hideous Darth Vader masks which spring up a couple of stories at each of the many level crossings has been included in the design so passengers in the train cannot look down through the windows of houses, or at swimming pools, the family dog, or even the grass growing. Whether those passengers have woken up to the fact that these, multiple and short elevations will send them on a ride like a slow motion big dipper and reduce their view to looking out at corrugated iron, no doubt in its nicest form, is not yet clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Choppers are nothing compared with the sirens and trains. Get sound proof glass if you have a problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBob Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Choppers are nothing compared with the sirens and trains.Get sound proof glass if you have a problem! Probably depends where you are, Robbo. We live with doors and windows all open, and have no wish to convert house to some sort of aquarium. We can also hear choppers coming from miles away, not that it bothers us, but in some settings the racket and frequency would be a total pain in the a**. Isn't this more a matter of showing some flexibility so that we can all try to live together? I seem to recall a clamp down on helipads on Mornington peninsula when everyone wanted to put one in for the w*nk value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 There are two helipads they operate from and both are on the Yarra. One is located directly opposite Crown Casino and the other is further up the river, there approach and departure path is straight down the river so its only a minute or two of noise as they climb, and they don't go that often!! Plus there not that noisy ! I remember a few years back I was getting changed on the 16th floor and the police helicopter hovered past the window as I was nude I should there and waved, the chopper hovered for about 30 seconds until I showed him there was a full moon today True Story !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben87r Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 That's funny, because pepole from Melbourne annoy pretty much everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Location of helipads in relation to MCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Those who get annoyed have the problem. Sydney used to be a beautiful place. I lived there for 4 years but have no desire to return even if I was rich which you need to be. I'm only referring to Sydney as it seems to get worked up over Melbourne. There always was a big rivalry. That's why Canberra exists. I don't think Melbourne reacts that much. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Being a long time flyer,I can still understand the dislike of helicopters.They make more noise than fixed wing, but even worse, linger too long. I once had about 8 hours of noise within 1 km. of home as they checked the HT power lines, then to add insult to injury, they parked their fuel bowser in front of my hangar doors, not once but twice. They got the message when I told them "Next time I would take the bowser where they wouldn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Helicopter noise? Ptah and Phewy. A wanker on a late model Harley fitted with straight through pipes is more of an environmental terrorist. OME 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I get a lot of heavyweight choppers over here. They don't annoy me but they are very intrusive. There's no engine noise like the big blades of a chopper rotor. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 I get a lot of heavyweight choppers over here. They don't annoy me but they are very intrusive. There's no engine noise like the big blades of a chopper rotor. Nev But there the ASIO helicopters spying on you Nev! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 He can jam their radar by kickstarting the Harley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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