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Where is the assertion that “doctors and health experts don’t know what they’re talking about”..?..? If yer a soldier on the front lines all you see is your immediate surrounds - Overloaded hospitals treating hysteria whilst patients with real issues are not properly attended to and die... and after sitting in a hospital for a few days then yer gots CCP virus in the test even if you didn’t go there with it..? Via Germany: “...Many have told me in emails a great suffering that people have created through the focus on Corona and/or the lockdown. Cancer sufferers are on morphine because the upcoming surgery has been postponed to provide beds for Corona sufferers. A doctor writes to me that the elderly and people with many pre-existing conditions – but without corona – are already no longer admitted by many hospitals, even though beds are free. A doctor writes that it is very bad for dementia sufferers and can even be fatal if the general conditions suddenly change, i.e. the daughter is no longer visited. Domestic violence increases in the extreme stress of isolation and massive fears. All of these are terrible consequences, which of course should be taken into account in the context of a lockdown decision...” https://pflege-prisma.de/2020/03/31/sterbezahlen-in-pflegeheimen/ “The maths show low death rates” - The annual rate of all cause mortality is what you should be looking at to compare current death rates to previous death rates. Via the above article: “...Every day, around 900 people die in German nursing homes. This figure is based on a conversion of the death figures for 2018, which was recorded by the Federal Statistical Office. Even before Corona, it was common in the winter months that many residents died in a relatively short time, without television crews standing at the door and showing people wrapped in protective suits, who heroically expose themselves to the risk of infection... ..In 2018, a total of 954,874 people died in Germany. The day with the highest death toll was March 3, 2018, on which day 3,863 people died in Germany. In the period between February and mid-April, the daily death rate was well above 3,000, for the rest of the year, with one exception in August, it was between 2,300 and 3,000. On March 3, 2018, 2,302 people in the age group aged 80 and over died in Germany... (Source: Federal Statistical Office)... At the moment we are still waiting for the big rush of Corona patients in this country. However, this will not exist, because it can already be seen that the Corona flu here in Germany is more like the most healthy people: "If I didn't have the test result, I would live on as normal. I have no symptoms at all," read a newspaper report today. With 700 "Corona deaths" (stand 31.03.20) of which no one knows what actually died, it should gradually dawn on everyone that we have no Italian conditions to fear here.. ..While the leading media is trying to keep the level of fear high over growing numbers and images of coffins carried from nursing homes, so that people stay at home, critical journalists have revealed that the case numbers are misleading...” .

Just been reading the research that were linked in the article I referenced earlier: Fight the Virus with Sunshine “...If vitamin D is Hope-Simpson’s ‘seasonal stimulus’, then countries with low 25(OH)D levels and marked wintertime troughs should have higher excess wintertime mortality than do countries with high 25(OH)D levels and little seasonal variation. For example, Norway has the highest 25(OH)D levels in Europe (thought to be due to its high year-round consumption of fish and cod liver oil) [59]. Levels of 25(OH)D in Scandinavia display the least seasonal variation in Europe; indeed there is virtually no 25(OH)D seasonal variation among the elderly in Scandinavia [60]. On the other hand, the elderly in Great Britain have low 25(OH)D levels and such deficiencies are much more common during the influenza season...” https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/C4D90C6E7CB127E6DF7A52D3A9EE2974/S0950268806007175a.pdf/epidemic_influenza_and_vitamin_d.pdf ........?...........so thats why all them oldies move to the Gold Coast and eat out at sea food restaurants...? .

Me old granny used to tell me the sun is good for ya...? “...Scientists have long investigated why the flu season dramatically ends in the warmer months. One key factor is our immune systems improve when sun shining on our skin produces the all-important Vitamin D. It is a form of vitamin D that is more effective than what is added to our milk. Researchers reported, “vitamin D deficiency is common in the winter, and activated vitamin D, a steroid hormone, has profound effects on human immunity. D acts as an immune system modulator, preventing excessive expression of inflammatory cytokines and increasing the ‘oxidative burst’ potential of macrophages. Perhaps most importantly, it dramatically stimulates the expression of potent anti-microbial peptides, which exist in neutrophils, monocytes, natural killer cells, and in epithelial cells lining the respiratory tract where they play a major role in protecting the lung from infection. Volunteers inoculated with live attenuated influenza virus are more likely to develop fever and serological evidence of an immune response in the winter. Vitamin D deficiency predisposes children to respiratory infections. If we do not get enough sunshine, sheltering in place just might have the unintended consequence of prolonging the COVID 19 epidemic. As the elderly become less mobile and spend less time outside, a vitamin D deficiency would only amplify their vulnerability. April is the time flu infections dramatically fall. Of course, the COVID 19 virus differs from influenza, but our immune system’s ability to fight all viruses is key. Maybe a.....” Continues: Fight the Virus with Sunshine .

The way young Lucas is going I reckon he will have a fleet of corporate jets shortly. The vib around the place is good. No, I’m not an instructor nor have I ever flown with the school. I just been hanging out at airports for a long time..? .

What I’m seeing around the web is the “CCP Virus” The “Chinese Communist Party Virus” A far more ‘precise’ term that reflects the likely originators..? .

Is this some of the Doctors ?...? https://web.archive.org/web/20200328152430/https://portale.fnomceo.it/elenco-dei-medici-caduti-nel-corso-dellepidemia-di-covid-19/ Of course if yer look at the latest version of that archived copy you will note the date of birth has been removed - Strange..? https://portale.fnomceo.it/elenco-dei-medici-caduti-nel-corso-dellepidemia-di-covid-19/ Where did I claim that ? Yep. Mostly older people. The younger with higher blood pressure/heart conditions. Nothing like a trip to hospital to build the hysteria level and give em a heart attack..? Plus, that hospital visit can kill ya..? “...One retrospective study of critically-ill patients with MERS found that almost half of the people that received steroids needed additional treatments such as assistance in breathing, drugs to increase blood pressure, and a form of dialysis. Those given steroids were found to take longer to clear the virus from their bodies...” https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200206110703.htm I suppose all hospital problems are now listed as “Died from Caronavirus”...? .

If yer believe the media then Italy had a virus outbreak before China did..? “...A “strange pneumonia” was circulating in northern Italy as long ago as November, weeks before doctors were made aware of the novel coronavirus outbreak in China, one of the European country’s leading medical experts said this week... ...The debate over the possible origin of the pathogen has also been at the heart of a war of words between Beijing and Washington, with Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Zhao Lijian among a number of Chinese officials and diplomats to amplify a conspiracy theory that the coronavirus outbreak might have started in the United States and been carried to Wuhan by the US Army. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had previously infuriated Beijing by calling it the “Wuhan virus”, and US President Donald Trump responded to the conspiracy theory by referring to it as the “Chinese virus”. Zhao then said on Twitter: “By calling it ‘China virus’ and thus suggesting its origin without any supporting facts or evidence, some media clearly want China to take the blame, and their ulterior motives are laid bare.”...” https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3076334/coronavirus-strange-pneumonia-seen-lombardy-november-leading .

Interesting days for me... My motel room were broken into. Just been talking to the manager. The inner city motel management rights are owned by a Chinese company..? .

Looks like they have trouble actually identifying Coronavirus at times...? From back in 2003... “...an outbreak of respiratory illness due to HCoV-OC43. The observed attack rate of 67% and case fatality rate of 8% underscore the pathogenic potential of HCoVs in frail populations. This adds to other observations underscoring that CoVs other than SARS-CoV may be responsible for a broader spectrum of disease than coryza alone...” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2095096/ .

And in Germany... “...Hendrik Streeck is probably the virologist who has seen most patients in Germany. An interview about new Covid-19 symptoms, rapid tests and too high death tolls.. ..How do you explain the low death toll in Germany compared to Italy, for example? I am not at all surprised by that. In Italy, only the very difficult cases have been tested. For example, the current study from Shenzhen also found that children are just as likely to become infected with the pathogen as adults, but they develop only mild or no symptoms. According to the study, 91 percent of Covid-19s only go through mild or moderate symptoms, then Italians initially focused only on the remaining nine percent. In addition, the dead are also subsequently tested on Sars-CoV-2. In China, too, the death toll initially skyrocketed, but not the number of infections, because it also focused on the deaths. Now it is the other way around, because much more is being tested in China...” https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/neue-corona-symptome-entdeckt-virologe-hendrik-streeck-zum-virus-16681450.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2 So, if yer only test the sick yer get a high death rate percentage... NUF fer now, the day beckons..? .

Meanwhile, back in Italy during the 2018 cold and flu season the health system were having problems... (Via google translate) “...Milan, intensive therapies to collapse for the flu: already 48 seriously ill many operations postponed Difficulty to welcome new patients, suspended bookings for resuscitation beds intended to accommodate the sick after operations, overtime (free) shifts for doctors and nurses recalled from vacation. Doctors' Appeal to the Region Record numbers. Complications of influenza, especially pneumonia, send resuscitations into crisis: 48 cases of seriously ill patients hospitalized from Christmas to today in intensive care of Polyclinic, San Raffaele, San Gerardo di Monza and St. Matthew of Pavia, the hospitals of Lombardy for the use of the Ecmo, the machine that replaces the lungs. Problems overlap: difficulties in welcoming new patients, postponement of scheduled surgeries and suspended bookings for resuscitation beds intended to accommodate sick people after operations, overtime shifts (free) for doctors and nurses recalled from their holidays. A serious situation that prompts doctors to ask for the help of the Health Council led by Giulio Gallera and to regret the choice made by the Minister of Health Beatrice Lorenzin not to allocate more funds for the Italian network of The Ecmo (finished the 20 million euros financed in 2009 by the then Minister Ferruccio Fazio). Giuseppe Foti, who leads the Emergency Emergency of the San Gerardo di Monza, reckons: "Three patients admitted until 22 December, 6 from 22 to 31 December, 8 from January 1 to today. The problem is serious. From this week we are forced to suspend bed reservations in intensive care for surgical patients with scheduled interventions." Federico Pappalardo, head of intensive care at San Raffaele, admits: "Today other non-urgent operations will be skipped." Giacomo Grasselli, Medical Director of Resuscitation at the Polyclinic, is in the same situation: "The risk of postponement of elective surgeries for patients in need of postoperative care in intensive care is a problem on the agenda." Giorgio Antonio Iotti, head of intensive medicine at St. Matthew of Pavia, extends his arms: "Patients with severe pneumonia and major complications caused by the flu virus are occupying as many as a quarter of our 21 beds." In order to overcome the problem, according to the doctors, the intervention of lombardy region is urgent: Pirellone is called into question because today it has lacked a recognized coordination, even economically, of the work of the four hospitals. Alberto Zangrillo, director of the Emergency Emergency Department of San Raffaele, attacks: "The truth is that Minister Lorenzin did not bother at national level to refinance the project, putting Lombardy, a region on the The work of the other regions is also unloaded for the high level of centres.' Grasselli insists: "The centralization of patients who need Ecmo literally saves the lives of patients who would otherwise die." And the thoughts of the doctors, gathered on Monday at the Polyclinic to examine what to do, goes to the new mother who risked her life two days after giving birth, in early January, for a very serious respiratory failure followed by the flu and now in good condition thanks Ecmo. The same happened to a little girl, who became heavily aggravated as a result of fever and coughing. The worst was feared for her, too: "But our surgery with the machine that replaces her lungs saved her." A great commitment, a huge effort, which now make the institutions ask for recognition. To save more lives. Meanwhile, the blood emergency is widening, due to the flu virus that prevents many donors from going to the collection centers. After the appeal of the Polyclinic, the virologist Roberto Burioni also reports difficulties at San Raffaele, with surgical operations suspended due to the lack of blood. And it invites citizens to contribute...” https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/18_gennaio_10/milano-terapie-intensive-collasso-l-influenza-gia-48-malati-gravi-molte-operazioni-rinviate-c9dc43a6-f5d1-11e7-9b06-fe054c3be5b2.shtml?refresh_ce-cp Let’s add hysteria and panic to the system and see how it copes..? .

Hmmm... You tell me..? “...Intended Use This product is intended for the detection of 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). The detection result of this product is only for clinical reference, and it should not be used as the only evidence for clinical diagnosis and treatment. Limitations 1. The detection result of this product is only for clinical reference, and it should not be used as the only evidence for clinical diagnosis and treatment. The clinical management of patients should be considered in combination with their symptoms/signs, history, other laboratory tests and treatment responses. The detection results should not be directly used as the evidence for clinical diagnosis, and are only for the reference of clinicians. 2. The detection result can be affected by operations, including specimen collection, storage and transportation. False negative result may occur if there is any mistakes in the operation. Cross contamination during specimen treatment may lead to false positive result. 3. The detected target sequences of this products are the conservative region of 2019-nCoV's ORF1ab gene and N gene. However, target sequence variations may lead to false negative result...” https://www.creative-diagnostics.com/sars-cov-2-coronavirus-multiplex-rt-qpcr-kit-277854-457.htm .

As more data comes outa China it would appear that the China virus didn’t cause much of a change to the annual deaths from colds/flu. A big factor in the annual death rates is smog... “...Concerning Wuhan pneumonia, the formation of haze is a critical issue. The formation of haze mainly depends on three factors. First, the increase of static wind in the horizontal direction, which is not conducive to the diffusion and dilution of atmospheric pollutants. Second, the emergence of a temperature inversion layer in the vertical direction, which makes it difficult for pollutants to move upwards and are blocked at low altitudes and near the ground. Third, the increase of suspended particulates in the air. These three conditions are all available during the high incidence period of Wuhan pneumonia... ...According to data released by the Wuhan Bureau of Ecology and Environment, the moment when a large number of pneumonia emerged in Wuhan was during the period from January 19, 2020 to January 23, 2020, and the Wuhan air during this period was at the stage of serious pollution. The indices are all higher than 100. This means that the outbreak period of Wuhan pneumonia coincides with the severe period of air pollution, and this is one of the reasons. The second supporting reason is that the high incidence areas of Wuhan pneumonia coincide with the severe air pollution areas. We observed by randomly taking one day as a sample, and found out that the area with the highest level of air pollution in Wuhan Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market. This shows that even in “normal weather”, the air pollution in the seafood market area was the relatively worst area in Wuhan. The index was usually in the range of 140-160...” https://www.eurasiareview.com/01022020-polluted-air-could-be-an-important-cause-of-wuhan-pneumonia-oped/ .

I wonder how many die from having the bone pointed at them..? “...Israel Hayom conducted an investigation which revealed that all 21 people who have died from coronavirus in Israel have had various conditions, ranging from diabetes to cancer or autoimmune disease. The Hebrew daily reported that 18 of the 21 people who have died of coronavirus in Israel at the time had diabetes, eight had hypertension and seven suffered from cardiovascular disease (such as heart failure or peripheral vascular disease). Five patients were diagnosed with either dementia, a brain event or cognitive decline, and four had a lung disease. Other health conditions included liver disease, autoimmune disease and cancer - each in one patient...” https://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Which-common-background-diseases-Israelis-who-died-of-coronavirus-had-623163 .

Here’s a thought... Winter is coming... to Australia. Colds and common flu run rampant during winter. Imagine catching the China virus when you have a cold or the common flu. Perhaps if yer relatively young and healthy now is the time to have the China virus before you have to fight the annual cold...? NUF fer now, the day beckons.....? .

I’m not a subscriber so can not read the full back ground to the Bolt article and just why he makes the claims he do. Perhaps Bolt is referencing this: Via: Australia’s very low death rate is due to younger patients, plenty of tests « JoNova “...Australia has tested 230,000 people or about 1% of the population, and since most of those tests were aimed at travellers they have found the infected younger cohort, unlike countries with less testing. Australia has done slightly more tests per capita than South Korea (which has done about 400,000 tests on a population of 52m)...” Of note - Jo Nova has been an ardent lock-down proponent from the get-go. http://joannenova.com.au/ .

Edit time-out... Spell check - vulnerable, Not venerable.

I find it is still a good idea to follow multiple news sources -see what the current agenda is..? Once you understand their ‘bias’ on certain subjects the other subject articles can be interesting. E.g. Su-57. As an aside, probably one of the worlds most reliable news services is Breitbart: Breitbart News Network I know Breitbart to be very reliable because there is an entire industry of fact checkers trying to find fault with every article they print..? .

Interesting video, though, Doherty don’t seem to like capitalism..? Still, worth watching. An earlier vid from the Australian Academy of Science series presented by Prof. Purcell of the Doherty Institute suggests 12 months to a vaccine ? The Korean expert Professor Kim Woo-joo suggests a minimum vaccine time of at least 18 months..? I suppose the Kiwis have plenty of milk and lamb to live of until the vaccine comes out though I don’t know what the Israelis are going to do? I’d say the main worry of the Israelis at this time are probably the ‘multicultural problems’ they have. Apparently, alah protects all believers... ? A reality check, and Doherty alluded to it with his Gold Coast booze comments, is there will not be an enforceable lock down in Australia for more then a few weeks. Hopefully, just enuf time for the message to sink in to the most venerable in society to stay home. Prof. Kim Woo-joo also commented on the reality of the young just going out. .

?.....? They can track my mobile phone - most of the time I forget to take it with me and it sits on the kitchen table... .

Heh, maybe they didn’t let em have the full suite so they didn’t get to carried away..? Sputnik runs articles on the Su from time to time... https://sputniknews.com/military/202003281078744020-not-just-to-show-off-russian-test-pilot-explains-challenges-of-manoeuvring-in-dogfights/ Note - depending on the subject never take Sputnik as gospel. .

Heh, here’s yer theme song...? .

Back in the day when I still watched TV I seen one or two of the X files and found it moronic - probably to old for it. I used to read Biggles when I were a kid. So I suppose I’m a tin foil candidate... I wrongly posted the China scenario to this student pilots thread so any more references I make to it will be in the other thread. .

A different angle about Not isolating the young and healthy... “...The observation that early exposure to polio viruses provided life-long immunity raises the question regards dealing with COVID 19. To what degree is sheltering in place preventing people from becoming naturally immune when infected with a mild strain? The larger the population of naturally immune people, the greater the “fire-break” that prevents the spread of a more deadly strain. Just as social distancing minimizes the exponential growth of a deadly strain, it also prevents the exponential growth of naturally immune people. If so, perhaps a more targeted approach would be better. Our elderly population are the most vulnerable and are often confined to crowded facilities. People with compromised health conditions should self-isolate. We definitely need to minimize the spread to those vulnerable people.....” Continues... Unintended Consequences? Polio and COVID 19 .

We’ll see how the scenario pans out. In the mean time there are many questions being asked and scenario’s thought about... “...According to a University of Southampton study, people in Wuhan begin falling sick with a strange form of influenza in mid-November 2019. By mid-December at the very latest – as we now know – local medical authorities in Wuhan are aware that a new type of flu is infecting stall-holders and shoppers from the Hua'nan 'wet market' in the city.. ..Alarmed by the similarities of this new 'Wuhan flu' to SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) local doctors in Wuhan send samples from patients to multiple Chinese medical laboratories. According to an investigation by Beijing-based independent media company Caixin Global: 'As early as Dec 27, a Guangzhou-based genomics company had sequenced most of the virus from fluid samples from the lung of a 65-year old deliveryman.. ..Any responsible government, knowing the pandemic-panic created by SARS – which spread to 26 countries in 2003 – would have alerted the responsible international authority, the World Health Organisation immediately, and taken all steps to contain this new, unknown virus. The People's Republic of China did not...” https://9now.nine.com.au/60-minutes/china-cover-up-coronavirus-12-missing-days-wuhan-60-minutes/d8426648-f9b3-4439-9089-b733b8e4a6c5 .