Russ Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Towoomba aye, how do they feel about making it the "hub" for Australia's premier rec aviation nationals. Every yr....ANYTHING... That has wings, even hot air balloon folks, Vintage, Raa, gyros, microlites, balloons, gliders.........hello Oshkosh. Just a thought. ( the Wagner lads have plenty of $$$, and don't mind spending it. ) Apart from that Towoomba is geographically placed fairly good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Not a lot of motels/taxis/restaurants in Toowoomba, the Gold Coast is the obvious spot for tourism. A V8 Supercar race will attract a lot more interest than the airport, GC600 race gets 180,000, Townsville 400 70,000 people so Toowoomba would probably get somewhere between that on race day. Wagners would probably make more money using the runway for parking on race day than the entire year as an airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Page Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Rus I will go along with that, Toowoomba is central however the Victorians will have a moan. The only down side is the controled air space, with a good working radio that is not a problem either. Regards KP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 From little things........big things grow. The Wagner lads have the venue, they got the drive, .......our own 4 day Oshkosh. Think about it......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 they aren't interested in GA, at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKW Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 From little things........big things grow.The Wagner lads have the venue, they got the drive, .......our own 4 day Oshkosh. Think about it......... And best of all they've got FT on board! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The problem with Wagner's dream is it doesn't work, i would prefer they stick to making money and paying taxes than building pointless infrastructure. It's just a shame they didn't build a high speed railway from Toowoomba to Brisbane The race track will go down a treat, compare Toowoomba(120K) to Warwick(20k). Warwick has a race track, drag strip, polo paddock, horsing areas http://www.wht.org.au/morgan-park.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff13 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Hey FT don't look now but the sky is falling, the sky is falling. And I am sure it is all the fault of those Wagner bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Manbaby arguments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff13 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 My point exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Ok, they may not be interested in GA, ( I take it you checked that ) but I'm saying they are interested in profile, promotion, and all that comes with it. I also think state govt might just get to thinking here, Qld is seeking activities that draw folks to Qld, we have here a multimillion $ development , it's going to rattle some cages, any half decent proposal will attract interest. An Australian Oshkosh could be a real teaser for them. I'm done....just thought I'd put it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I will go along with that, Toowoomba is central however the Victorians will have amoan Moaning is part of their DNA....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Well it's hard to get a straight answer out of the Council, Media or Wagners. One week we are doing 1million passengers and 100% passenger focused the next week its 1000 jumbos of beef into China. the problem with building out there is the soil has a high level of organic matter, they have had to dig 5 meters of topsoil to lay the runway. The question is what is going to happen to TWB, it could handle a decent sized aviation event, more so now that the RTP is now gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 here you go Geoff some good times in Toowoomba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExJourno Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Not a lot of motels/taxis/restaurants in Toowoomba, the Gold Coast is the obvious spot for tourism.A V8 Supercar race will attract a lot more interest than the airport, GC600 race gets 180,000, Townsville 400 70,000 people so Toowoomba would probably get somewhere between that on race day. Wagners would probably make more money using the runway for parking on race day than the entire year as an airport. Let's only look at the very first item. Motels. FT... just how many motel rooms do ya reckon need to be within, lets say 30 minutes of Toowoomba CBD for such an event to be viable here? How many rooms do you think there are in motels in the Toowoomba region? Do you even know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 In 2006 I was marketing an in room Internet access service in SEQ. Sold a lot more stuff on the coast. Yes I contacted every motel on the darling downs. Hasn't been that many new motels built since then adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru Phil Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 How many beds are there in Bathurst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Bathurst has a major tourism event with its racetrack, Toowoomba only has the carnival of flowers and Easterfest. Neither draw a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 They should make maximum use of their local talents and have a Whining festival. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 That's canberra's gig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExJourno Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Quantify it, FT. A million can be "not that many" depending on its relativity. How many rooms/beds are there here? The number of motels means nothing. The number of rooms and beds is of material importance. How many are there? How many do you think are needed? And you marketed in room net access? You mean... you actually thought something was viable enough to be positive about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Adam if you can show the demand I'll happily believe in Wellcamp. Did you see that Joyce has inked a deal to ship live cattle to China? Most going via Darwin/Rockhampton. Jobs in local abattoirs safe apparently. In room internet access was a good little earner until smart phones and USB sticks came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExJourno Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Soooooooo.... I gather you either don't know or think no one will notice that you're avoiding the question. Motel rooms... how many are there and how many do you think would be needed? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Did you see that Joyce has inked a deal to ship live cattle to China? Most going via Darwin/Rockhampton. Jobs in local abattoirs safe apparently. If the cattle aren't dead when they leave Australia, then why are local abattoir jobs safe, are they going to start a reality show with stories about what they used to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Motel rooms for what though Adam? what new tourism event is happening in toowoomba? Ill admit I have no recollection of how many motel rooms there are within 20 minutes of Toowoomba. I had the golf club as a customer when they first opened their motel but the occupancy was never great. At a guess, there can't be more than 4000 motel rooms around Toowoomba. It only took me 3 weeks to contact every motel in toowoomba TP: live exporters compete with abattoirs for cattle, the abattoirs are worried the chinese will buy up all the stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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