Parkway Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I was just wondering if anyone knows the reason why most controllers in Australia pronounce the word decimal "day-sim-al" There must be a good reason! Although I still don't know why we don't just say point like the Americans do.. Decimal is adding unnecessary time to each transmission in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Refer to the pronunciation in the NATO Phonetic Alphabet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 We do not say "point" which is US American because we are ICAO compliant for the most part in Australian aviation and ICAO use "decimal". The reasons we pronounce is DAY SEE MAL is for clarity in radio transmission: 1. forced phonetics and stresses as per ICAO are clearer on transmission - similar to 9 = "niner"; and 2. forced pronunciation away from native English tends to remove/diminish regional/local accents and stresses again improving universality of understanding - particularly for those for whom English is not their native language 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercity Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Spot on Kasper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkway Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Fair enough, thanks for the reply :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Also FIFE and NINER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Here's the lot. The Nato Phonetic Alphabet, also sometimes referred to as Alpha Bravo Charlie. Letter: Code Word: Pronunciation: A Alpha Al fah B Bravo Brah Voh C Charlie Char Lee D Delta Dell Tah E Echo Eck Oh F Foxtrot Foks Trot G Golf Golf H Hotel Hoh Tell (FAA, IMO, ITU) Ho Tell (ICAO) I India In Dee Ah J Juliett Jew Lee Ett K Kilo Key Loh L Lima Lee Mah M Mike Mike N November No Vem Ber O Oscar Oss Car P Papa Pah Pah Q Quebec Keh Beck R Romeo Row Me Oh S Sierra See Air Ah (FAA) See Air Rah (ICAO, IMO, ITU) T Tango Tang Go U Uniform You Nee Form V Victor Vik Tah W Whiskey Wiss Key X X Ray Ecks Ray Y Yankee Yang Key Z Zulu Zoo Loo Numbers (FAA, ICAO) Number: Code Word: Pronunciation: 0 Zero Zee Row 1 One Wun 2 Two Too 3 Three Tree 4 Four Fow Er 5 Five Fife 6 Six Six 7 Seven Sev En 8 Eight Ait 9 Niner Nine Er 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Also FIFE and NINER It is also recommended to say TOUsand rather than THOUsand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWF Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Used to be: Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Freddie etc ......... Or you could use (well maybe not on the radio): A for orses B for mutton C for yourself D for dumb E fa brick F for vessent G fo police etc...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Back when we used HF radio in the bush and no headphones, just an overhead speaker, you needed every help you could get to understand what was said. But before that, I suppose, were the pilots with no radio who had to watch for coloured lamps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvercity Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Back when we used HF radio in the bush and no headphones, just an overhead speaker, you needed every help you could get to understand what was said. But before that, I suppose, were the pilots with no radio who had to watch for coloured lamps.[/quoteYou mean blokes like Howie Debney and Ken Rosen back in the good old days of the Broken Hill Aero Club Peter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Yes, exactly. Flying to Darwin in VH-BHU and talking to Adelaide while I was trying to figure out where I was! I reckon Dudley Hart would have been a coloured lamps man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 PMCCarthy, As we now have no certified hand held transceiver, we have to use colored lights again !. Copper burns blue , magnesium white etc,. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 It is also recommended to say TOUsand rather than THOUsand. It'd come natural to the Irish! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 It'd come natural to the Irish! ...and to German and Dutch people who seem to have a lot of trouble pronouncing the "th" sound in English words. EG: thirty-three sounds like dirty tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Dirty tree and a turd percent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 ...and to German and Dutch people who seem to have a lot of trouble pronouncing the "th" sound in English words.EG: thirty-three sounds like dirty tree. Londoners have a silent ' t ' and I fink that I am correct that ' th ' is pronounced as an ' f '. Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Londoners have a silent ' t ' and I fink that I am correct that ' th ' is pronounced as an ' f '. Alan. Well that's just thucking weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi303 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Try Maori... Wh is prounouced as F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 And Japanese "Fuku Maru" is fishing boat spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shags_j Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Regarding why we say Day See Mal... See AIP Gen 3.4-15 4.10.1 Another interesting reference from that section is also the use of copled numbers in flight ID's. ie. Tecnam twelve thirtyfour (Tec1234) Gen 3.4-22 4.21.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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