FlyingVizsla Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Queensland hit with severe thunderstorm as SES, energy provider and Brisbane council offer help with clean-up - ABC News WWW.ABC.NET.AU South-east Queensland was rocked by a severe storm last night, with winds felt in Brisbane's south akin to that of a category three cyclone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 It seems tying down your own aircraft is not enough these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, turboplanner said: It seems tying down your own aircraft is not enough these days. Cable snapped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, turboplanner said: It seems tying down your own aircraft is not enough these days. My mistake. Channel 9 footage tonight shows the top aircraft from the other side with a tie down chain still firmly attached to a wing and the ground cable ripped out. Wind speed was 169 km/hr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Kiwi said: Cable snapped. Yes, just saw it on Channel 9 news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Higher windspeeds than were registered with the cyclone to the North near Cairns. You'd never anticipate that. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 I remember when I worked there, watching an afternoon storm come through and the AN2 that was chained down ouside Ian Aviation’s hangar was actually flying on its chains! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRviator Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Kiwi said: Cable snapped. That ain't gonna be a cheap fix. And their insurer's gonna have fun with that assigning liability to the airport for failing to ensure the tiedowns were adequately maintained! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_Atrick Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Is the airfield liable for the cables? The two airfields I have had parking at provided the tiedown points/blocks, but it was up toi us to provide the cables.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Those two small Cessna's look like they had a wild party, got on the sauce and drugs and woke up bruised and in a compromising position. How else do aircraft breed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Archerfield seems to be susceptible to storms like that! Sorry if this is thread drift but bear with me! A lot of years ago I broke a Skyfox. I thought I had put the pin through the spar after unfolding the wings, but in fact on the left wing I had missed the hole. I pushed down on the tail to swing the aeroplane around and the wing then swung back and not only nearly broke my arm, but broke one of the aileron hangers. I had to drive to Caloundra to get the repair kit and then spent the best part of a week repairing it. It was then put back on the flightline where the owner kept it, because according to Skyfox, although it was fabric it could be safely tied down outdoors! Absolute bullshit! A week or so later Archerfield was hit by a storm and the aeroplane not only had so many holes in it that you would think it had been machine-gunned but was tipped upside down, despite being tied down, it was virtually destroyed! Really don’t know what happened to it after that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRviator Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Jerry_Atrick said: Is the airfield liable for the cables? The two airfields I have had parking at provided the tiedown points/blocks, but it was up toi us to provide the cables.. The cable that's snapped looks to be part of the airport infrastructure, I can't imagine it being a users responsibility to provide the heavy steel cable that let go. Certainly though, it's the aircraft owners responsibility to provide the tackle to lash the aircraft to that heavy steel cable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBoy1960 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 18 minutes ago, derekliston said: That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs? some airports now won't let you use ground screws because it damages the surface and if they are not removed they interfere with lawnmowers and are too much of a liability for the operator. Somebody might even stump their toe on one and sue the council. When I travel I take self-inflating concrete blocks, they look really heavy ! https://www.walmart.com/ip/BUNKR-Build-Your-Own-Battlezone-Inflatable-Concrete-Block-for-Blaster-Battles/181932666 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, derekliston said: That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs? Chyeck whether the insurance excludes an "act of God" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 No such thing as a act of God. Just bullshit to take payments and never payout. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) The entity that caused the damage should foot the Bill. What would Insurance Companies know about god ? Nev Edited December 17, 2023 by facthunter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 I'm sure the comedians will find some applause somewhere, but a serious question was asked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Not to worry ! . With their insurance payout . They can buy a ... 1941 TigreMoth rego number A17-626 for $ 82,000. Spotted on faceb today spacesailor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 And do you reckon "ACT of God" should be a serious concept when you are paying for "loss and Damage" cover? Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, facthunter said: And do you reckon "ACT of God" should be a serious concept when you are paying for "loss and Damage" cover? Nev It is a formal Insurance term. Edited December 17, 2023 by turboplanner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 That can't be discussed? You didn't answer my question either. You always end up saying "read what's on the form" That doesn't provide any SOLUTION to the problem. ACT of God.!! Are we in the dark ages? Nev 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 As I explained, act of God is a formal insurance term; the person I was addressing has the chance to get an answer to his question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, facthunter said: And do you reckon "ACT of God" should be a serious concept when you are paying for "loss and Damage" cover? Nev Reminds me of Billy Connolly’s movie. The Man who sued God! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 22 hours ago, derekliston said: That makes me wonder whether, if the airfield operators are deemed responsible for the cable breaking, they will completely remove the cables and leave the responsibility to owners to use ground screws or whatever for their tie downs? I took this question seriously. If you were serious, here's a legal explanation of Act of God. https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/commercial-law/national/tort-law/acts-of-god You then have to look at the parking contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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