Keith Page Posted May 4 Posted May 4 On 10/04/2025 at 7:32 AM, turboplanner said: So what did they do to upset you? Expand Turbo.. Big question here are you a member/shareholder/or other of RAAus or own a RAAus regestered aircraft? Just interested..
BrendAn Posted May 4 Posted May 4 On 04/05/2025 at 9:53 AM, Keith Page said: Turbo.. Big question here are you a member/shareholder/or other of RAAus or own a RAAus regestered aircraft? Just interested.. Expand He is ga as far as I can tell
turboplanner Posted May 5 Posted May 5 On 04/05/2025 at 9:53 AM, Keith Page said: Turbo.. Big question here are you a member/shareholder/or other of RAAus or own a RAAus regestered aircraft? Just interested.. Expand No, tried RAA as a low cost alternative, but when I ran the spreadsheets found it was more expensive than GA, but my interest is in cross country. 2
Blueadventures Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 05/05/2025 at 10:42 PM, turboplanner said: No, tried RAA as a low cost alternative, but when I ran the spreadsheets found it was more expensive than GA, but my interest is in cross country. Expand Is that because you did not do your own maintenance, annuals etc. 1
turboplanner Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 1:08 AM, Blueadventures said: Is that because you did not do your own maintenance, annuals etc. Expand No it was more based on the distances, however RAA has stuck with aircraft ownership and maintenance from the AUF days so an owner pays for any mistakes in the aircraft specification or design, and pays the full cost of maintanance, annuals etc. where by a hiring regime/aircraft on the flight line you may be paying for only 100th of those costs. 2
facthunter Posted May 6 Posted May 6 When you hire you KNOW what you are up for, but you don't know how the plane has been operated by other flyers before you get it. Aircraft ownership costs are High particularly if you don't use it that often. Hiring at weekends can be difficult and you can be under pressure to have it back at the time you said you would. Nev 2 1
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 2:17 AM, facthunter said: When you hire you KNOW what you are up for, but you don't know how the plane has been operated by other flyers before you get it. Aircraft ownership costs are High particularly if you don't use it that often. Hiring at weekends can be difficult and you can be under pressure to have it back at the time you said you would. Nev Expand I watched a video once about a piper I think it was. The owner had it available for hire . Anyway she got sent a GoPro of some clown doing aeros and pushing it way beyond the Poh limits. 1 1
440032 Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 3:00 AM, BrendAn said: I watched a video once about a piper I think it was. The owner had it available for hire . Anyway she got sent a GoPro of some clown doing aeros and pushing it way beyond the Poh limits. Expand Wong Warrior it was. (THE Wong Warrior - Christie Wong's) 1
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 3:24 AM, 440032 said: Wong Warrior it was. (THE Wong Warrior - Christie Wong's) Expand they hired to the wong pilot 1
aro Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 1:34 AM, turboplanner said: an owner pays for any mistakes in the aircraft specification or design, and pays the full cost of maintanance, annuals etc. where by a hiring regime/aircraft on the flight line you may be paying for only 100th of those costs. Expand That's an owning vs. renting comparison, not RAA vs GA. I fly GA because with a GA license, RAA just seemed to add a layer of bureaucracy on top of what CASA already provide. 1 1 1
spacesailor Posted May 6 Posted May 6 I believe that the 95-10 ' wing loading ' is not applicable to VH EXPERIMENTAL . Am I wrong ? . spacesailor
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 4:28 AM, spacesailor said: I believe that the 95-10 ' wing loading ' is not applicable to VH EXPERIMENTAL . Am I wrong ? . spacesailor Expand IPP-GEN-008-002-Convert-RAAus-amateur-built-to-VH-Experimental.pdfFetching info... 2
turboplanner Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 4:39 AM, BrendAn said: no mention of wing loading Expand You're quoting an SAAA document there.
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 5:03 AM, turboplanner said: You're quoting an SAAA document there. Expand read it. its raaus to vh experimental.
BurnieM Posted May 6 Posted May 6 Its also a SAAA information document. This may or may not be all the current CASA requirements. 1
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 5:54 AM, BurnieM said: Its also a SAAA information document. This may or may not be all the current CASA requirements. Expand It's saaa listing the requirements for ra to vh. You would get the same thing off casa. 1
turboplanner Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 6:05 AM, BrendAn said: It's saaa listing the requirements for ra to vh. You would get the same thing off casa. Expand Not necessarily, but certainly it's not safe to provide advice from third party documents.
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 6:17 AM, turboplanner said: Not necessarily, but certainly it's not safe to provide advice from third party documents. Expand Crap. Why are trying to stir up shit. I bet you have not even looked at it 1
Blueadventures Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 5:54 AM, BurnieM said: Its also a SAAA information document. This may or may not be all the current CASA requirements. Expand Its a great guide, it alerts you to where you need direction from CASA about additional information to support the application. Best guide available. 1
Blueadventures Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 6:24 AM, BrendAn said: Crap. Why are trying to stir up shit. I bet you have not even looked at it Expand Agree was going to say the same, very, very rare to be provided definative and total advice these days even by the regulators, they will only advise generally and say to apply and they will then specifically address your application. 1
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 (edited) On 06/05/2025 at 6:32 AM, Blueadventures said: Expand On 06/05/2025 at 6:17 AM, turboplanner said: Not necessarily, but certainly it's not safe to provide advice from third party documents. Expand I was rude to snap at you but if you read it you would see it explains the subject very well. Edited May 6 by BrendAn
spacesailor Posted May 6 Posted May 6 It does what is needed. Very well written , thanks . spacesailor
turboplanner Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 6:39 AM, BrendAn said: I was rude to snap at you but if you read it you would see it explains the subject very well. Expand It might explain a subject very well, but when you are talking about an aircraft which has been refused registration for, as far as I remember, over a decade then it's best for the person involved to be contacting the organization responsible for registration rather than a third party who may not have an "Amendmment", "Sunset Clause" "Proviso" or any number of items the outside party might have missed in his opinion.
BrendAn Posted May 6 Posted May 6 On 06/05/2025 at 7:17 AM, turboplanner said: It might explain a subject very well, but when you are talking about an aircraft which has been refused registration for, as far as I remember, over a decade then it's best for the person involved to be contacting the organization responsible for registration rather than a third party who may not have an "Amendmment", "Sunset Clause" "Proviso" or any number of items the outside party might have missed in his opinion. Expand Is this supposed to be for the never ending story.
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