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Maybe, but so what, are you against the market having cheaper, safer aircraft for others to choose from, even if you are happy with your choice? If you want to fly an expensive aircraft that you can't travel with your 'large'ish' Mate, some baggage and fuel for a reasonble distance trip, no one is stopping anyone. No one is looking to ban the aircraft you already have. I can't understand why some of you are against it when it doesn't affect you at all, you're happy with the choices you have, that's awesome, enjoy, this change won't impact you. Most Americans I speak to agree that 600kg LSA are not suitable for them, and theres a reason that the next size up are the biggest sellers/most used there. I will be meeting 4 Americans of note in the light aircraft industry/EAA later in the week for a few days, and this is on the table for discussion, and I note that a couple of them are 'large'ish' gentlemen ..

I have at no point in time suggested anywhere or supported an increase in stall speed, I am absolutely for a standardised stall speed regardless of weight, so I'm not sure what your platform is about there .... .. and no, you can not include serious crash protection without increases in weight. Other than some tube steel high wings, most planes I have looked over are going to kill you in any reasonable incident, and plenty of evidence of it. the issue is their desperation to make a reasonable offering of payload in a tightly restricted weight class. Your unltimate safety comes in around 10th place, if considered at all. 600kgs is fine in Europe, I even had a short ass, 55kg Dutchman tell me that there was no need for more, even less was fine, and yet just yesterday, I had a 110 kg American, exactly twice the weight of the Dutchman, telling me the LSA weight is out of his reach as an viable option. And of course what hasn't been mentioned is that the extra weight allows for far cheaper, and proven, auto conversion engines such as Viking and Aeromomentum. ... and that is a biggy in reducing the costs

That is utterly reliant on the structure around you that you're crashing in, but anyway, I answered Bruce's post, with a comparitive example, that seem to contend that a heavier plane automatically meant higher stall speeds, that is not true. It is true that there are compromises, a heavier plane with more wing area to maintain stall speed will likely be slower and use more fuel. All I want is to see an increase in weight so as to add load plates in corners, and a roll bar, and a few other items that would make construction cheaper. How many more pilots and pax are going to die, paraplegic, head injuries, be trapped in low wings with fuel dripping around them etc because they wont put a 5kg roll bar in..

It's a simple case of range, and then where are you going to charge it? You won't get one hour out of the current balance of weight and power, and by one hour I mean from the shed back to the shed with a little safety margin, so 40 to 45 mins actually in the air. Add more battery, and the extra power to lift it etches into the range expotentially, double the battery weight and likely you will go the same distance as with half. Charging then will be some 12 to 14 hours from a typical 240V outlet in a hanger/shed, it's not like a car where you drive to an established charger and charge in 40 to 60 minutes. Though if you have 380V 3 phase available, you can knock that down to 3 or 4 hours with what's called a "Wall Charger". I charge my Tesla in 9 to 10 hours on my wall charger, but that's 70 KWh battery pack, light plane would be 20 to 25 KWh So, you're going to fly for 40 mins, come back and put it on charge for 12 to 14 hours, hope you're close to home, because your'e not going to leave it there on charge and come back next week for a flight, you will come back the next day just to take it off charge. It's do'able, just messy and inconveniant. However, a motor glider is a real possibility .......

I disagree with the statement, as first is obviously has to do with wing loading/area/flaps etc A Cessna 172 at almost 4 times the weight, stalls at a lower speed than a Rutan VaruEzy. No one is arguing that overall lighter is better, but, secondly, I contend very strongly that I can build a far safer aircraft, i.e. crash structure, with the addition of a little weight, 650 to 700 would be great. I have always maintained that 600 is too light for LSA for a couple of 'Large Gentlemen', fuel and baggage, especially in Yankland.

Ahh yes, was wondering about Mabel. You certainly have reason to get into it now to get it out of the way.

Well done Mark, I know how long you have been chomping at the bit for it, but the anxiety has only just begun!

The sky is a fluid through which we can swim. (Thanks Shirley).

Irrelevant, no one reads the manual. The sky is a liquid through which we can swim.

Can't help you there Mate, but may I suggest a Toyota KR 1.0 instead? Although not a stock item in Australia, the Yaris came with a 1.3 and 1.5 4cylinder here, they are in just about every other country in the world, and at least 2 doing kits for them. http://www.aeromomentum.com/am10.html

No, LSA is cheap flying, didn't you get the memo .......

Wow, that's awesome!

Just a Diamond in the rough ...

Sloper, what happened to this project Mate?

No, it runs just fine.

Glad to see yaw still at it P47, looks great, keep going!

Of course, just not sure of the breakdown of "missed" meaning sentiment, or like the badly aimed coathanger my Missus threw at me last week .... ?

... and they dared to stand and call them "Loonies" .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_hypothesis

Takes up a whole half closet for a half dozen plane plan sets, I can carry those same half dozen plane designs on a USB that fits in my money pocket ... and mice don't eat it! I got one set of plans here that has been photocopied so many times some of the numbers are entirely unreadable too, besides having a mix of inches and metric measurements ..... Of course with 3D plans you can zoom in, rotate, ghost, the entire plane and see how parts actually are supposed to fit. But anyway, the point was of course that CAD and paper don't build planes, people do. They are merely storage systems for your design. Sure, some software can do extra like FEA etc, but with the years and money it takes to aquire those skillsets, it's easier for me to simply farm it out. I do use file export functions (.dxf) straight to suit some CNC functions such as laser cutting as well. Thanks Clinton, glad to see you and a few others still around here ?

It's on charge at the moment.

Begeezus I didn't realise that I would get to see his posts if somebody else here replied. I had left it at that, eg; blocking him, but after this one I've reported him for his wilful and intentional spiteful disturbance to this thread, and Admin can deal with him from here. Facebook has the best answer, if I block someone, I can't see their posts, but they also automatically can't see my posts and threads, that's the best way to deal with it I feel.

Hi Admin, thanks again for all the effort you put in here. I would like to see the 'Ignore Member' function work both ways, like Facebook does in that If I block someone, I can't see their posts, and I don't want them to see mine. Is it possible, or is there a reason that it's the way it is? Thanks,

You won't believe this, but some designers even used to keep their drawings on paper, PAPER! ... PAPER!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, back to my designing, and back to blocked for you, not even sure how you became unblocked ..

People don't choose to try to build the cheapest kit plane on the market to make a squillion dollars out of it. I was never in it for the money per say, and because money isn't the main issue nor a barrier, that's why it will succeed. Well, half of one anyway.

I would have thought my capabilities for this project were quite clearly demonstrated by the picture progress of all that I have designed and built with my own hands. Each major component I design has been through FEA and calcs done by qualified Aeronautical Engineers, so people can relax on that side of it. Clearly that's not good enough for some, I couldn't give a fook, I have taken no money from anyone, and until the day I take 1 cent from anybody, I'm just a guy building a plane, and build it it whenever the fook I want to build it, which is not right now, mostly due to health. If you want that in a nutshell, open heart surgery, 3 months ago slipped off a boat, body slammed down onto a concrete landing step onto my left rib cage/heart and off to hospital (thankfully I had a lifejacket on and only nearly killed myself), and 7 weeks ago had another major operation below my tailbone to have an abscess removed, 100mm long cut, 50mm deep, open wound recovery. 3 weeks ago I stepped on moss in the rain and went azz over spraining my foot badly and apparently hurting my shoulder. So besides still not being able to breath properly, sternum in pain daily, can't walk, can't sit down and can't lift my left arm, not that I can lift anything over 15 kgs at the moment anyway, and can't sleep, I FEEL JUST GREAT. I mean no disrespect to those that have shown me encouragement and support, I am very grateful, just when you open up the thread after some time and you see crap being thrown your way ... and for what? I am sorry for not having checked in earlier and thanking those for the kind "recovery" comments, thank you, and we are considering how to progress on the plane projects these days now that my principle investment in the Dunning-Kruger Electric Car Dealership, that is going very well, has been returned.