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And if you stick to the Manufacturers recommendation, that is good enough for me! Jabiru recommend Avgas and have published very comprehensive reasons as to why. So its Avgas for me in the Jab.

I purchased a recording Cable from Nflightcam a while ago and generally it works well with the Gopro Hero4 Silver, however the USB charging part does not seem to charge the Camera when connected to a portable battery pack. Not an issue as long as the camera is fully charged before flying. Audio quality is excellent and records all headset and radio conversations which is great for post flight review. Company had no answer as to why it wouldnt charge the camera, they are in the USA and difficult to talk to.

Downunder, my comment not directed at you personally.... just a lot of talk from others about someone moving to a new role which he is entitled to do. Why so much interest?

I cant understand all the drama! The Announcement just said he ismoving to a new Role, people do it every day! Why is everybody so concerned?

We are all agreed! Take it home, its yours.

If you have a good idea of the wind, the D3 will give you GPS derived ground speed, and you should be able to land safely with power and attitude. You wont be too far out!

Have a look at the Dynon Pocket Panel D 3 I have the earlier version, it does it all!

Ive never heard of Wingbug!

Avplan on your ipad should have everything you need.

Yes thats correct. I was on the $50 deal for years and when i renewed recently it was gone!

RF Have you been solo yet?

Correct. I found that longer flare took some getting used to, but if you have the speed nailed, it lands beautifully!

I havent received the mag yet?

Ken you have said what i am thinking but i cant seem to get my msg through. I have referred RF to Jabiru. They should be able to answer his specific questions.

I say again, just ask Jabiru for your a, b, c and d questions. They built the Aircraft.

RF, myself and others, have picked up on your many posts which have multiple questions, scenrios and scientific insights. With utmost respect, I admire your enquiring mind and keeness for knowledge, but am asking myself, is this guy enjoying the journey to his licence? Tell us about your first solo which really will get the adrenaline pumping, and how much you enjoy flying a stabilised approach to a greaser! Dont concern yourself with the details of the Lift formula, just accept it, and query it down the track if you dont believe it. I apologise if i am on the wrong track with my thoughts and dont want to offend you, maybe others can put it better than me. Just enjoy the thrill of flying!!!

The 170D has the 230 Wing and tailplane. The 230 has the great luggage area in the back opened separately. The 230 has the bigger engine and the perf stats are on the Jab website. I purchased my 170 new in 2014 and love it. I would like the extra 15-20 knots but happy to live with the 100 kts in the 170. The loading calcs for the 230 are more critical but fantastic if you only have 2 average size humans and moderate stuff. I get 14 lph in the 170 with 135 litres capacity so refueling few and far between. Im summary, i probably would have gone for a 230 when i purchased, but couldnt justify the extra cost at that time. My 170 does all i need for my relatively short trips, very economically. As i said, the Jab website will give you a good comparison. Hope this helps

I agree with Turbs on this one. I fly the 170D and dont see any need to refine the design any further. RF If you have concerns, or queries, the team at Jabiru will be very happy to discuss why they did what they did. There is a very comprehensive write up of the J170D story on the Jab website which in my opinion, tells me all i need to know.

Engine mismanagement certainly an issue but i dont have specific details. As you said, The Jab Engine matter of 2014 has been discussed and debated at length and no need to continue that dialog now. Lets get back to topic about purchasing an airplane!

Be careful about making statements like that without factual data. Vague assumptions and heresay doesnt cut it with me

Why would you remove a perfectly good gen3 engine that has been maintained in accordance with the Manufacturers guidelines? There is absolutely nothing wrong with these Engines if maintained correctly. I know, I have one, and so do others i know.

Good comments but be careful with the cross hire arrangement. I know from past experience that the maintenance costs will far outweigh the income generated. I realise it all depends on the School and Instructors and you dont want any surprises from that unreported heavy landing that a Student was too embarrassed to report. Just my opinion

And i appreciate the need for a re weigh if items are added/removed since original weigh

All good and correct Nev. Just making a point to Stuart regarding perceived mistrust of the Manufacturers book figures.

Not quite sure of the point you are making. So if i buy a brand new Factory built Aircraft with the stated Empty weight numbers in the POH, that I have to go and re weigh myself to confirm the Manufacturers numbers? Can you clarify thanks