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Very sorry to hear Dieselten, nothing worse than someone you know. Take care Alf

That is terrible to hear DrZoos, Another 2 gone today along with the gyro guys, very sad day for all families and friends of our lost brothers.

Never good to hear anyone leaving us following a passion the obviously love doing Condolences to all families and friends

On the insurance, yes it is a cost but writing it off is a greater cost if uninsured, yes I will be coming up to my 6th year of 2k insurance but I’ll get back 100k of that if I unfortunately bingle it, so even 30 years at 2 k a pop is 60k if I happen to bin it I will still be 40k infront Insurance in my opinion is a necessity in something worth 100k plus

KR Yep I think the same way, I recently a few months back completed a 9 day trip from West Sale to Uluru and back and marveled at my plane sitting at Uluru after transporting us from home in 14.7 hrs (strong headwinds most of the way), the return trip took us 11.4 hours with an additional 150nm tacked on to it. Total fuel used was 508 litres and cost me $1216 bucks for the best part of 2500nm. I often sit and look at the plane after I arrive somewhere and marvel how this thing of steel, aluminium, nuts bolts and rivets has just transported me to these wonderful places in such a short time.

KR At the end of the day I don’t worry about the cost, I fly because I love doing it, being what you would call a not drinker persay couple of beers a month if I am lucky and not a gambler other than lotto I could waste that sort of money doing those things and get nowhere near the enjoyment I do out of flying. Alf

Weren’t most trained to do precautionary S&L in to the wind at about 70kts with a stage of flap at about 150 ft not punting along at cruises speed 80 ft above the water?

I’m with you Teckair, No a very professional run outfit after seeing the videos before they were pulled. Cameras don’t lie and it is all good and well to act like cowboys but when you mess up or have an incident it all comes back to bite you on the arxe. Not one bit of sympathy from me, best thing was CASA pulling the AOC and the licences IMO

Riles, Just for general info let’s say my Tecnam Sierra which is owned outright cost me about $28 per hour for fuel at current prices $15 per hour for engine replacement $2 per hour for oils & filters $2 per hour for tyres & ancillaries $2100 a year for insurance $1500 a year for hangarage $260 a year for RAA membership $165 a year for Registration $144 a year for a ASIC card $300 to $500 for my 100 hourly’s. So me averaging over 100 hours every year my rough cost total to about $90+ per hour fixed costs but probably is closer to $100 per hour as there are variables no doubt. I use my aircraft for a minimum of 100 hours a year so it is a far cheaper option for me to own as to hire, yes I could recoup some costs hiring it out but the question remains I know how I treat it, bit like hiring your spouse out if you don’t give a damn about her or deciding you like her to much to be abused by someone else.

The Tecnam also flys much nicer than the Bristell in my bias opinion, having flown a Bristell I would have my low wing Tecnam any day of the week.

For me it would be fuel taps off, full throttle until it runs out, electrical circuitry off and down to the deck as quick as I can side slipping the flames away from me if possible, also fortunate to have a sliding canopy which would also be open. Hope it never goes in to practice.

Toppee, usually hire by the hour goes on engine time not by the time you pick it up and drop it off so a 260km each way trip in a 100kt aircraft would be 3 to 3 1/2 hire time depending on winds

Doesn’t matter who you are or how many hours you have, you are human and you are not perfect, none of us are although many think they are infallible to these types of accidents or any accident a matter of fact. The thing is you alone are responsible for whatever decision you make while manipulating the controls, you do it right you live you do it wrong you may not. How we as humans react under a pressure situation is an unknown until after the fact.

Old Koreelah, yes the coroner is a RAA member and does have a good grasp of aviation related matters which was good to see. Only one person really knows what went wrong or what actions were made but our little mate is no longer here to tell us unfortunately.

Just look up Queensland coroners court and it is in 2018 reports I found it about 3 weeks ago as since his accident I started checking about 12 months after it, sad that we will never know why the engine failed, sure looks like he tried a turn back for what reason we will never know. I thought the coroners report was quite good

Well FT It is actually there to be used if the need arises. Umm that’s what you fit them for isn’t it??? Or do people in Queensland just fit them for the sake of it, It’s ok we southerners can handle the extra hour of sunlight we get now, I can understand now why you lot don’t want it

Bruce Was that the one of the trike where the Buffooon just fitted it and had his activation handle/ cable connected too the control bar and when he pushed forward it activated That’s called you cannot teach stupidness Some are born with it A modern day ballistic chute requires about 15 to 20kg pressure to activate it

ave8rr Don’t quote me on this but the Piper sport and Bristell are both from the same designer I recall, same wing and other parts. One must wonder why piper pulled the plug on the sport Maybe in fear of litigation and getting sued for a design they were not happy about? Only guessing here and my own opinion

Good aircraft those Bristell’s !!! That is two now that have flat spun into the ground, something is not right with the design as they should be fully recoverable in all facets of flight. And before you bag me out for knocking the brand, 4 witnessed it at Stawell airport who all fly and watched it unfold in front of their eyes, I’m good friends with one of them. And yes I have flown one and didn’t like it, nowhere near as nice as my Tecnam Sierra, nice to look at but that is it for me. Glad to hear these latest two are still with us and wish them a speedy recovery.

Probably watched flight radar and seen he would put in a holding pattern for an hour or so. Recon he put the Mayday fuel call in to get priorty slot. Fill out the paperwork later, oops computer. Glitch CASA. Hey United, can I get my bonus now for all the fuel I saved and engine time I saved. Love Capt’n

Whatch u talking about Willis??.....

Ill I’ll fly it down for you mate

American Widows, no brainer they were going to sue Max’s estate. 260 odd kilos overweight, pilot error determined, won’t be hard to win it, only real winners are the blood sucking lawyers.

Because some pilots are too professional for that.

What a nanny state airport, run by morons paid for by ratepayers. Good old West Auckland / Wait Awhile