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Takes me back to when I used to muck about with the all metal Caproni SR22 jet powered self launching glider

Personally I'd plan to fly via the VFR approach points... they are there for a reason. it makes the job for the tower guys easier in processing your flight into the pattern.

G'Day George.. welcome!! Just get rid of the Datsun mate and get stuck into the flying bit whilst the minister for finance lets you... we had a Datsun 240Z years ago until the wife pranged it.. bloody well hit a vintage car going to some rally..

Well from personal experience, I learnt to fly in the Grumman Lynx which was a development of the BD1, flew the cheetahs and tigers and got my initial twin rating in the cougar ( a twin engine development of the design) I also had the pleasure of flying the BD4 so it would come as no surprise to anyone that I have followed Jim Bede's career over the years with more than a passing interest and like Rutan, he has his admirers and critics. A case in point would be my experience of some peoples' opinions of the Lancair when I was flying one.... until I took them up.. One guy for instance wouldn't get in it but his wife did and when we came back she had a grin from ear to ear and as she climbed out she commented that it was better than sex LOL.. That sort of changed his mind a little so he nervously got in and I took him up.. He came back with a totally different perspective because he was more informed.. and that's my point, there are a couple of misinformed comments above. Guys like Neubuer, Bede and Rutan do push the envelope and design aircraft using different materials and concepts and this has resulted in a division in opinion. The tragic accident that spawned this thread no doubt will be the subject of a lot of conjecture until the FAA releases its findings but to me it does have all the hallmarks of trying to keep a low inertia aircraft flying with insufficient/no power back to the airfield as witnesses commented on the distressed nature it exhibited.

I know they are, but to get your initial command instrument rating you still need the legacy aids Fat lot of good that is trying to use that for landing at Wellcamp and at this stage Oakey are still anal about civil training flights being allowed into their airspace. I'm just interested to see what (if anything) that they put in..

Be interesting to see what facilities (RNAV etc.) are put in place at Wellcamp for use by Airline Academy of Australia (Royal QLD Aero Club) to finish off their pilot training.. New enrolments in their courses have been well down and my understanding is nothing is currently planned to move much from Archerfield. I guess their hoping that wannabees looking at courses offered around the country may see the exclusive use of a new airport would be an advantage but really..... Of more note that is creating interest is the pending move of BASAIR into Archerfield and an ILS being installed into Gold Coast airport..

And of course the journos' creed "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story"

yep, MZW almost didn't recognise it with that crappy plain white paint job.. company I work for used to own it before present one. for an old slogger used to fly really well.. Being parked in a hangar was no guarantee neither as some planes were damaged inside them as well ..

^^^^ in the case of the Lancair, you have a dump valve to release the hydraulic pressure holding the gear up and the gear "freefalls" into place (supposed to anyhow). Don't know what happened here, maybe something seized..

yep and a fair sprinkling of "drunken pilots" stealing aeroplanes.. good fun for the kids I guess

The Yak 52 has a hand operated differential braking system albeit using air but could be done with hydraulics.. you squeeze the brake handle on the joystick at the same time having the rudder bar turned into the direction you want to go (which is attached to a proportioning valve) and wallah around she goes with the castering nosewheel. Can turn a Yak novice into a quivering mess just taxying to the holding point..

:doh:oops $$$

LNC2 (Lancair) .. Sorry

I think John Buchannan took to the airframe with an axe and took the bits to the tip. Unfortunately at the time we did have a federal government that was very anti aviation and they closed up opportunities which helped the demise of aircraft development and john ran out of dollars.. and concentrated on commercially viable alternatives such as Adelaide Steamship supply contracts etc From memory the early LNC2 (although aleo strut) suffered bad shimmy with some nose wheel collapses. As for forward cantilever sprung nose wheels, both the Cirrus and Grumman singles have them and are also castering.

When I did my NVFR it was called a Class 4 instrument rating and did include operations at night remote of lighting... and it was all on the dials until you got established in cruise then you could afford to relax... I did my flight test on a moonless night, stars were pretty though. The accident that is subject to this thread highlights how quickly it can bite when you break the rules and the tragic outcome in doing so..

I would have thought they would also display that other foray into aviation in Toowoomba, the Ozzie Mozzie which was developed by Buchannan Aircraft Corporation in the late 80's early 90's

I stand corrected about the ownership status Adam, thanks for checking. Still there is a plethora of aerodromes throughout Australia that are protected under Commonwealth Law and I would imagine YTWB is amongst these, although ownership has passed to either council or private lease etc.,. I would think that council selling off the airport may prove difficult. TRC tried to up the rents at the airport and had to back down as regardless of Wellcamp it is an important community utility.. Rumours about any pending sales have been furiously denied by both council and even on the news last night within state government.

www.casa.gov.au/.../lib100244/prelim_airspace_assess_bne-wellcamp.pdf · PDF file Getting back to the original post of this thread, Yenn (bless his heart) wondered what impact the opening of this airport was going to have on us yokels. For those wanting some light reading, have a geeza at the attached link. With Toowoomba Airport's future tenure, it does come under Commonwealth Law and is administered by TRC.. It would take an act of Federal parliament to dispose of the airport, not an asset sale by either State or local government.

Bugger all right.... just noticed the rego and i've flown that plane

Yenn, I betcha didn't think this can of worms would manifest itself here

I tried...

Does it have to be an existing environment FT? A lot of our problems in infrastructure are simply because decision makers didn't have foresight in the planning and implement stage.. I remember the bleaters when the Brisbane Gateway was first planned and now try to get around Brisbane without it.

I drove along the Toowoomba - Cecil Plains (goat track)Rd on Monday from Toowoomba to Cecil Plains and it wasn't that bad.. lots of road works happening.. besides the government is building that bypass and I checked the proposed route and funny enough, Wagners put their development right next to it and (Wagners) are planning to pay for and build an interchange off the bypass into the estate/airport..

^^^^^ That happens on the Gore Hwy as well Turbs ... I know of one roadtrain operator alone that does Brisbane to Perth who will save a gazzilion when he gets the depot set up at wellcamp.

FT. I'd like to keep things as they are to, but the reality of things is that its a changing... for better or worse that remains to be seen, and that comes down to proper management by the stakeholders.. and proper governance by the authorities. At least we have individuals out there who will put their hands into their pockets and spend money on what they believe in to be an opportunity, giving many people employment etc... bit different to others bleating about things when opportunities go elsewhere and you miss out.. For instance, Did you also know that Coles, Woolies and others are planning distribution centres in the area instead of choking Brisbane? The Wagner hub isn't been built to load up 747s full of hay bales...