old man emu Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 I obtained my Radio Operator's Licence back when I first started flying in the early 70s. Like so many, the activities of Youth ceased with the utterance of a mere two words, "I do". Is a radio operator's licence a lifetime thing? I'm mean, apart from brushing up on mandatory transmissions while returning to currency with my pilot's licence, I wouldn't have to sit the exam again, would I? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGM Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 In my RAAus training there was a short, pretty easy exam on the following... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 4 hours ago, old man emu said: Is a radio operator's licence a lifetime thing? I'm mean, apart from brushing up on mandatory transmissions while returning to currency with my pilot's licence, I wouldn't have to sit the exam again, would I? Seems like you might be transitioning to the new-fangled Part 61 licence from an old CAR 5 licence? You'll need a GELP, general english lannguage proficency, assessment as a prerequisite for using a radio. https://www.casa.gov.au/licences-and-certificates/pilots/pilot-licences/getting-recreational-pilot-licence-rpl# 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 If I remember correctly there was an expiry date on the radio licence. I have never bothered about whether or not mine is valid. I have used it since the 70s right up until now. I can't check any of my records or my licence as it is all packed ready to move house tomorrow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 6 hours ago, djpacro said: general english lannguage proficency, You failed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Everybody does. You have to be able to understand Sino- English. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) When I took my H F radio test , I asked about ' annual renewal ' ( as about to head offshore, overseas ) BUT Was promptly told " no one renews , just keep up to date " . That was the government licence inspector. Then they want a test for this & another test for that, then they will dream up more ways to get revenue. spacesailor Edited November 20, 2022 by spacesailor More added 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, djpacro said: .. 13 hours ago, old man emu said: You failed! lannguage proficency Sometimes I fail. For pilot licences ... regs 61.120 & 61.435 refer to authorisations to use radio. Edited November 20, 2022 by djpacro typo - failed again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, djpacro said: Sometimes I fail. For pilot licences ... regs 61.120 & 61.145 refer to authorisations to use radio. Thanks. I'll also have to check on the requirements for operating a radio ground to air for when we are moving about on the aerodrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, old man emu said: Thanks. I'll also have to check on the requirements for operating a radio ground to air for when we are moving about on the aerodrome. 61.435 and my earlier link refer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Once, in the air, I heard a vh pilot told off by a glider-pilot for " Occupying the airwaves with useless rubbish" and the glider pilot sure had a point. These days, I use the 126.7 unicom frequency and I often wonder just where the reporting aircraft is. There is no attempt made to say just what place they are "on downwind" for. I guess I should just ask them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said: I often wonder just where the reporting aircraft is. People don't realise a radio transmission will travel from a height above ground, especially of that ground is flat for miles and miles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 VHF is line of sight. HF bounces off the appleton layer. Day-night is different frequencies. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Bruce Tuncks said: Once, in the air, I heard a vh pilot told off by a glider-pilot for " Occupying the airwaves with useless rubbish" and the glider pilot sure had a point. These days, I use the 126.7 unicom frequency and I often wonder just where the reporting aircraft is. There is no attempt made to say just what place they are "on downwind" for. I guess I should just ask them. My head's spinning too much to unravel that riddle, but the guy calling downwind may have called "Edenhope Traffic" at the take off. A set frequency for the airfield helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Or just " traffic " !. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru7252 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I want to hear radio calls in the circuit, I give radio calls in the circuit. Unless radio calls are so frequent that they are over the top of each other then shut up and listen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted November 26, 2022 Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 20/11/2022 at 11:33 AM, djpacro said: Seems like you might be transitioning to the new-fangled Part 61 licence from an old CAR 5 licence? I spoke to an instructor who gave me the drum on what I had to do. Basically it's a matter of filling out a form; photocopying relevant logbook entries; providing an ID photo. And of course paying the $25 fee. I don't even have to prove that I can converse in the King's English. Now I'll just wait until they change the rules and my Heavy Vehicle driver's licence medical will suffice to allow me to commit aviation. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted November 30, 2022 Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 Just an update on going Part 61. It was simple to apply for the change. Download and print the application form from the CASA website Scan and print all the pages of my CAR 5 licence, including Radio Operator's licence Scan relevant pages from my logbook that show certification for solo, RPPL test and lifting of RPPL restriction, systems endorsements and ratings, and recent experience (wow 10 years ago) Obtain passport-sized photograph and have the photograph certified as being my ugly mug Fill out the approval for CASA to suck $25 from my bank account Declare that I hadn't told any porkies on the application document Put everything in an envelope and drop it in the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 When I did my PPL all those years ago it was called FRTO (Flight Radio Telephone Operators) licence and was a mandatory condition of attaining PPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 You are correct, I just didn't want to get up and go find my logbook to get the correct name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Wonder IF they will RPL my Advanced Ham Radio Licence 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted December 2, 2022 Author Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, jackc said: Wonder IF they will RPL my Advanced Ham Radio Licence 🙂 Maybe if you tell them porkies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Also my ' short-wave listening ' licence . AND the U K ' Broardcast licence ' . Ooops , ?. do I need a ' hearing aid ' licence . spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Should just need a wireless comms practical as it relates to Aviation, ANY comms licence should have RPL recognition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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