ozbear Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Done as well:cheezy grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I have sent the link to all my flying friends plus a few others, if we all did the same it would no doubt increase the numbers, but we need thousands, not hundreds. With an election coming up I have a list of questions for my local MP and this will be added to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 great idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerin Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 At the risk of putting a damper on an otherwise good idea...shouldn't the actual petition say something better than "Remove ASIC cards entirely." I know if I was a politician I wouldn't place much importance on a statement like that. A bit like saying "Remove speed limits entirely". Surely you need to make a case on the grounds of saving taxpayers money, public perceptions of safety, restrictions on rights etc etc. It would be better to do a bit of research and to speak politicians language in terms of money, risk and public (or media) perceptions...such as: Country X has a lot higher risk of terrorism but they don't have an ID card 60 tonne B-Double semis pose a far greater threat to airport safety in terms of what a terrorist could do than a 600kg aircraft. Truck drivers don't need ASICS. The costs outweigh the benefits Studies show that...... It's unconstitutional because it restrict trade between the states ( ) etc etc In any case, in this day and age of interconnected information, I can't work out why a "background check" is needed any more. Surely if Joe Bloggs commits a suspicious act any law enforcement agency could look up a file and see that "Ah ha, Joe Bloggs has a heavy vehicle drivers license, he has a permit to use certain fertilizers, he has a firearms license, and horror of horrors, he has an RAAus CERTIFICATE!!....bring him in for questioning!!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru7252 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Be aware you will be spammed once you sign the petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic36 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Be aware you will be spammed once you sign the petition. Haven't been yet, and I signed it the first day, unless you count the message from the petition website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Isaac Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I haven't been spammed yet ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru7252 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Just got my ninth spam. This one called "Sexual Abuse in the Church" They are originating from change.org which is the mob that has the petition against ASIC. So, dunno why I am being bombarded and you're not! Cleared all my cookies, history, ran my virus scanner and even cleaned the toilet. Let's see what happens now, in the meantime, I'm off to do some flying.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongie Posted June 16, 2013 Author Share Posted June 16, 2013 next email you get there is an unsubscribe link down the bottom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Just got my ninth spam. This one called "Sexual Abuse in the Church" They are originating from change.org which is the mob that has the petition against ASIC. So, dunno why I am being bombarded and you're not! Cleared all my cookies, history, ran my virus scanner and even cleaned the toilet. Let's see what happens now, in the meantime, I'm off to do some flying.... I haven't, but I am pretty anal. I used CC cleaner and clear my cookies and everything else on a daily basis. As you do. I'm not sure why you are getting spam. I also run Norton 360. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayavner Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 just unsubscribe as Hongie said. I think its not so much spam as the attempt to harness the power of social media to advance these causes... remember, the Bishop probably got an email asking to support removal of ASIC cards... if a million people get that and only 1% think its worth a look, that's still 10,000 without even trying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davebutler Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Done:smile: Good riddance if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballpoint 246niner Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Like lightning, signed.Its ridiculous that at many airports now you can't even get back airside without a person being called, then giving you the gate pin while he checks your ASIC, if I was a serious national thread it would be so easy to arrive airside then hijack from there. The whole system is a result of knee jerk incompetence. Proven by the fact that now marathons are are an open target. If we follow the security logic, you'll need an ASIC to go to the toilet soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Evans Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 ...." If we follow the security logic, you'll need an ASIC to go to the toilet soon!" I flew into Moruya, wrote the code on my hand, went to the loo, washed my hands...bugger!!! A CPL helped out and i made it back to YOAS 20 mins before last light. a great flight on a great day but I will take an indelible marker with me next XC because sometimes you relly have to go to the loo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongie Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 I flew into Moruya, wrote the code on my hand, went to the loo, washed my hands...bugger!!! A CPL helped out and i made it back to YOAS 20 mins before last light. a great flight on a great day but I will take an indelible marker with me next XC because sometimes you relly have to go to the loo. camera phone mate :) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 409 supporters to date. Not enough we need thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sain Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 actually probably not. some low level staffer will be assigned to check if you can submit under a fake name, and once they discover you can it'll get ignored. call me cynical. Mind you, it'll at least get them to think about it for a second or two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Is there anyone IN FAVOUR of the damn card? What would Ghandi have done? I can feel a public burning coming on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Is there anyone IN FAVOUR of the damn card? What would Ghandi have done? I can feel a public burning coming on... But Col, I was being cereal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I don't go to Pprune but maybe if the word is spread over there, it may increase the numbers a fair bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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