dsam Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Yeah. WE probably get it too easy. Blissful ignorance. McMansions and 3 car garage. Pokies and Football and get on the P!$$ weekends. Nev Yet we allow politicians to get away with distractions like Knighthoods, or the issue of becoming a republic (my personal opinion = Yes) when the real political questions go un-answered by the major parties. How poor is the level of political wisdom these days! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 It's ALL an illusion. Nothing is real. It's all spin and no reality. It could be done so much better if people weren't so keen to make money out of it. It won't stop you from dying. Your health is the most important thing you can have and good relations with real PEOPLE you enjoy the company of. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 According to that fount of all knowledge, Wikipedia... "A knight (/naɪt/[1]) is a person granted an honorary title of knighthood by a monarch or other political leader for service to the Monarch or country, especially in a military capacity. " What the hell did Phil do for Australia? (Or was it something private he did for King Tony?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Not a spelling mistake. Site, as in where he is standing. Not sight as in where he is in a"persons" scope. He has a very dubious past. Like most ex union people. Google it. I'm ex-military (16 years service) and a current union member. Not all unions or union members are the same. By the way, some private security contractors employed by the US in Iraq have been an absolute nightmare - and corrupt too. Blackwater immediately springs to mind. Threatening to murder a State Department investigator. Over-billing Government Departments. Falsifying contractual data. Getting drunk on duty. The list goes on. Four of their employees were recently found guilty of murder, manslaughter and firearms offences in a Federal trial. They are very lucky there weren't more people on more charges. An unpleasant company full of very unpleasant people. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'm ex-military (16 years service) and a current union member. Not all unions or union members are the same.By the way, some private security contractors employed by the US in Iraq have been an absolute nightmare - and corrupt too. Blackwater immediately springs to mind. Threatening to murder a State Department investigator. Over-billing Government Departments. Falsifying contractual data. Getting drunk on duty. The list goes on. Four of their employees were recently found guilty of murder, manslaughter and firearms offences in a Federal trial. They are very lucky there weren't more people on more charges. An unpleasant company full of very unpleasant people. Blackwater were/are very naughty boys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Blackwater were/are very naughty boys. ....which is why I often raise my eyebrows when Governments contract private security firms in combat zones! Not to say they're all like that. I know one which is doing excellent and extremely important work in Afghanistan, but it's a highly specialised area they're working in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think Abbott starting to hand out knight-hoods is a great thing. Some migrant families who pump out endless kids needing our welfare money, should also be encouraged to wear them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Migrant families? Where I live in NSW the ones pumping out endless kids needing welfare money are exclusively white home-grown, born and bred aussies. In fact only a few weeks ago I had to help a migrant Asian family who run a local fish & chip shop when a bunch of our proud home grown aussie white kids (not a day older than 12 or 13) came in and tried to steal stuff out of their drink fridge. They are repeat offenders. I think we should clean up our own backyard before we throw stones at the migrant families. 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Every OECD country subsidises the production of children, its the only way to grow the tax base to support all the benefits of the pensioners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 All this talk of pollies. I wonder how close to the military the pollies are. I bet there are not 5% of pollies with any military service, but they all love to strut around on Anzac day, or any other time they can go and meet the troops. We should send the pollies to war, when they can't come to an agreement with the enemy, Then later maybe send in the troops if appropriate. One thing I did notice was that the Governor General looked like an Aussie, spoke like an Aussie and seems to have a good idea of what should be going on. But then he was never a politician. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchroll Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 All this talk of pollies. I wonder how close to the military the pollies are. I bet there are not 5% of pollies with any military service, but they all love to strut around on Anzac day, or any other time they can go and meet the troops.We should send the pollies to war, when they can't come to an agreement with the enemy, Then later maybe send in the troops if appropriate. Sending our pollies to war would be a great idea. I suspect they'd either bore the enemy into surrendering, or perhaps after explaining their decisions and policies, the enemy may even commit suicide en masse, not wanting to live on the planet anymore. Nothing used to frustrate me more when I was in the military than gung-ho politicians talking big and tough about to send us to some far-flung craphole in some corner of the Earth, but who had clearly never even contemplated doing military service themselves. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Most pollies in the US get their Daddy to get them out of it. There's a few who served ,Eisenhauer, Kennedy, Mc Cain all saw active service. They(Pollies) are often all too keen to use others lives to advance their position politically. Some of our BEST in the past have served. Tom Uren being an outstanding Bloke, as a good example who has just passed on. Gorton was shot down, Definitely a real bloke. Whitlam served too. Some who have trained bit not served may be still wanting to apply the tactics they learned. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Most pollies in the US get their Daddy to get them out of it... ...there is already a big disconnect between America's soldiers (increasingly from poor minority groups) and the super rich who send them off to war. Would you lay down your life for those bloated, corrupt chisellers in Congress? Another similarity between America and the latter days of the Roman Empire. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 More good news about how "the world's greatest democracy" really works. http://www.smh.com.au/world/koch-brothers-billiondollar-plan-for-the-2016-us-campaign-20150127-12ytls.html No wonder so few Americans bother to vote. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 They have lost the plot. They will have riots and filled up Gaols. Money shouldn't buy votes like that. In.their case they use their money for propaganda based on falsehoods. Just LIES. Nev 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 They have lost the plot. They will have riots and filled up Gaols. Money shouldn't buy votes like that. In.their case they use their money for propaganda based on falsehoods. Just LIES. Nev ...just like arms dealers need wars, media empires love controversy. Politicians, corporations and governments all buy access to the public from the likes of Rupert Murdock, who just gets richer and more powerful. A healthy democracy depends on an informed and educated electorate; no wonder America is in trouble! With little funding for public broadcasting, the average American voter is probably no better informed than a citizen of China; possibly less so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Most pollies in the US get their Daddy to get them out of it. There's a few who served ,Eisenhauer, Kennedy, Mc Cain all saw active service.They(Pollies) are often all too keen to use others lives to advance their position politically. Some of our BEST in the past have served. Tom Uren being an outstanding Bloke, as a good example who has just passed on. Gorton was shot down, Definitely a real bloke. Whitlam served too. Some who have trained bit not served may be still wanting to apply the tactics they learned. Nev Tom Uren AIF, Arthur Calwell RAAF, Harold Holt AIF, Blackjack McEwan, Billy McMahon all come to mind. Tom Uren survived the Burma railway but John Gorton was probably the greatest survivor with 3 serious crashes flying Hurricanes out of SINGAPORE and Kittyhawks out of Milne Bay. He was also torpedoed when fleeing Singapore by sea. Not many did Korea or Malaya or Vietnam or the later engagements but they still like to be part of the pageantry. Kaz 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsam Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I wonder how many Australian vets of the recent Middle East operations will be inclined to go into politics? What changes might they bring, I wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest john Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Tony the PHONY is probably thinking at the moment to nominate himself for a knighthood before he is shown the revolving door by us little people or either by his own party stalwarts at the next election which ever comes first, as his days are obviously numbered . He appears to be experiencing mid life crisis or its female equivalent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Migrant families? Where I live in NSW the ones pumping out endless kids needing welfare money are exclusively white home-grown, born and bred aussies. In fact only a few weeks ago I had to help a migrant Asian family who run a local fish & chip shop when a bunch of our proud home grown aussie white kids (not a day older than 12 or 13) came in and tried to steal stuff out of their drink fridge. They are repeat offenders. I think we should clean up our own backyard before we throw stones at the migrant families. Migrant families? Where I live in NSW the ones pumping out endless kids needing welfare money are exclusively white home-grown, born and bred aussies. In fact only a few weeks ago I had to help a migrant Asian family who run a local fish & chip shop when a bunch of our proud home grown aussie white kids (not a day older than 12 or 13) came in and tried to steal stuff out of their drink fridge. They are repeat offenders. I think we should clean up our own backyard before we throw stones at the migrant families. Fair comment dutch! In so many cases what you describe is due to lack of discipline in the home. My girlfriend recently broke down recently returning from a late night function. In desperation she knocked on the only door that had a light on as she doesn't have a mobile phone yet wanted to phone the NRMA. Once inside she witnessed two mega sized TV's, Mum chopping chillies and seven kids sewing track-suit pants at almost 2am. She commented that it was late for the kids to be up, to which they replied, "thats nothing, the trackies have to be ready for the markets in the morning". On asking the father what he did for a living? He said he didn't have a job at the moment, to which she relied, "that's a shame, its a bit difficult to get a job at the moment" He added that he'd been in Australia for 11yrs and never found any work. The following day I drove past their place and saw him getting out of his nice new HSV while probably drawing around $1800 a week or more on welfare which the likes of you and I are paying for. No wonder i'm feeling a bit pi**ed off, but fortunately they are not all the same, though far too many are. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 More good news about how "the world's greatest democracy" really works.http://www.smh.com.au/world/koch-brothers-billiondollar-plan-for-the-2016-us-campaign-20150127-12ytls.html No wonder so few Americans bother to vote. Those Koch brothers almost make King Tony and Court Jester Palmer look sane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest john Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The Missus is Excited: Oh I say Lizzie, isn't it jolly dashed of that COLONIAL PHONEY LAD to give me a knighthood. Oh yes rather Philly, isn't he the chappy that the Orstralians say is a badget smuggler. It makes one think why on earth would one want to smuggle a badger? Oh yes Lizzie, it does sound a frightful bore. The dashed thing is that we will now have to give PHONEY a title in return. I know Philly, we can make him a knight of the Royal Brown Nose. A jolly good idea Lizzie. We can also dub him 'SIR POSITIRY' Oh that is super Philly, I'm very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 'SIR POSITIRY I love it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I just told my wife that the Queen had decided to give Abbot a knighthood. "oh no" she said in a disturbed voice, but brightened up when I told her the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 There have been half a dozen Vietnam Vets. in the Commonwealth Parliament over time. Tim Fischer, former Deputy PM and Nats leader is probably the best known along with Graham Edwards (ALP MHR Cowan) who was outspoken in his support of his comrades and their families after his return. Both went in as Nashos and both served with distinction. Kaz I should have added that Graham lost both legs to a land Mine! And, most importantly... A few performed ‘special duties’. Frederick Chaney sen. (MHR, Perth 1955–69; LIB) was awarded the Air Force Cross (AFC) for his command of 16 (Air Observation Post) Flight, RAAF, in Borneo in 1945, supporting ‘Z’ Special Unit by flying and landing behind enemy lines in his small Auster aircraft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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