The risk of dying doing what we love

[skippydiesel]

Hmmm!

 

Not sure that I have seen a solid/unbroken yellow line  in Australia - A solid white line (lane marker) indicates the usable  limits for vehicle  movement, of that side of the road .

 

In Britain a solid yellow line is a no parking sign/indication.

[turboplanner]

1 minute ago, skippydiesel said:

Hmmm!

 

Not sure that I have seen a solid/unbroken yellow line  in Australia - A solid white line (lane marker) indicates the usable  limits for vehicle  movement, of that side of the road .

 

In Britain a solid yellow line is a no parking sign/indication.

It's a rule introduced in Victoria about 5 years ago; it means that you can't cross it. You can cross a solid white line to park if it's safe, but the other side of the yellow line is a no go zone.

 

People complain about CASA regulations but at least we only have one set.

 

Each State or Territory sets its own road rules.

They have signage conventions and regulatory conventions to make them as consistent as possible nationally, but remember we are not a nation but a commonwealth of states.

 

It's not that smart to test someone on all road rules for a licence in 1972 and expect him to remember them all plus all new ones in 2044.

 

An online test, say every five years, would be a revision of the ones you've forgotten, plus pick up all those new regulations where the cop says, "Well I'm sorry sir, but the law was gazetted 2 years ago and you're supposed to know." It would also be the goto for people on international licences.

 

However, while there may be bingles when people fail to give way, what we've been talking about is losing your life - fatalities, and when you start to disect those, you don't necessarily find significant numbers of fatalities from forgotten rules.

 

A good measure of your own behaviour on the roads is to count the number of horn blasts you get; it should be about 1 every three years at the most.

[facthunter]

You get horn blasts from behind here when you stop for a red light. Try Bell st. . Nev

[turboplanner]

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

You get horn blasts from behind here when you stop for a red light. Try Bell st. . Nev

You can't stop before the red light is on or fail to take of the millisecond the lights turn green,  if Gen Zedders are around.

[facthunter]

I usually beat them off the mark. Nev

[skippydiesel]

"It's a rule introduced in Victoria about 5 years ago; it means that you can't cross it. You can cross a solid white line to park if it's safe, but the other side of the yellow line is a no go zone."

 

Thanks for that . Next time I'm down Mexico way, I will look out for solid yellow lines (are there very many?)

 

Just completed a 4 hr round trip, one city one large town & many small villages - not a yellow line anywhere😈

 

Back, in my Mothers day,  when Australians numbered about 6 million,  it made sense for each geographic area (State) to make their own road rules - now at 27 million, plus a lot more interstate/international travel,  it's crazy that there is not a standard set of road rules for all Australia (role on the yellow line?????).

[turboplanner]

34 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

"It's a rule introduced in Victoria about 5 years ago; it means that you can't cross it. You can cross a solid white line to park if it's safe, but the other side of the yellow line is a no go zone."

 

Thanks for that . Next time I'm down Mexico way, I will look out for solid yellow lines (are there very many?)

 

Just completed a 4 hr round trip, one city one large town & many small villages - not a yellow line anywhere😈

 

Back, in my Mothers day,  when Australians numbered about 6 million,  it made sense for each geographic area (State) to make their own road rules - now at 27 million, plus a lot more interstate/international travel,  it's crazy that there is not a standard set of road rules for all Australia (role on the yellow line?????).

We are six Sovereign States each with its own Parliament. The public can want everything the same, the road authorities can agree and also want everything the same, but in our democracy a law has to go through both Houses of each State Parliament where the members have competing priorities and a single Member of Parliament from any State can send that State off in a different direction, or a State may have a logical reason for doing something differently. For decades trucks travelling from Melbourne to Brisbane had different load capacities in each State plus a whole lot of other differences. We said that was ridiculous and eventually the governments could see the benefit of being able to carry a full load from Point A to Point B, so they came up with a concept where they would have their quartely meetings together and thrash out a National rule, then they would pick a State to be the enacting State to democratically debate the rule and pass it. When that rule was gazetted in the enacting State, all the other States would enact a mirrored rule by default, i.e. it didn't have to be debated. And so the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator was born. I recommended a staff of about 6 to assess the problem rules, settle on a common rule and then send that to the enacting State.

The enacting State chosen was Queensland, the current staff level is "more than 830" and growing.

[skippydiesel]

I am aware of the history/vested State interest and resultant problems - none of which is to the economic or safety benefit, of the nations driving public. Apathy Rules!!😈

[BurnieM]

15 minutes ago, turboplanner said:

The enacting State chosen was Queensland, the current staff level is "more than 830" and growing.

Isn't Qld bitching about lack of money (generally) ?

How did this happen.

[turboplanner]

53 minutes ago, BurnieM said:

Isn't Qld bitching about lack of money (generally) ?

How did this happen.

Almost certainly the other States and Territories (CWLTH) are shaering costs.

 

Like changes to aviation regulations, each State publicised it conducted public information sessions and the industries went along with it.

 

When it was obvious that a commonality body was morphing into a giant imitation of Queensland Transport there was no significant complaint. "Services" have been expanded into overdimensional permit issue, road compliance and enforcement......and the weight and rule variations were still there last time I looked.

[facthunter]

Why call Vic, Mexico also? It's not that clever since Mexico is hotter than USA because it's CLOSER to the Equator. Same as Queensland and the NT and top of WA because it gets more sun.. I can draw you a diagram or Google it Mate. Nev

[spacesailor]

Western Australia 

Has a different maximum vehicle width than the other states . It earns money from ' interstate driver ' .

spacesailor 

[turboplanner]

30 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

Western Australia 

Has a different maximum vehicle width than the other states . It earns money from ' interstate driver ' .

spacesailor 

NHVR have just introduced an increased a national truck width to 2550 mm.

[BrendAn]

5 hours ago, turboplanner said:

We are six Sovereign States each with its own Parliament. The public can want everything the same, the road authorities can agree and also want everything the same, but in our democracy a law has to go through both Houses of each State Parliament where the members have competing priorities and a single Member of Parliament from any State can send that State off in a different direction, or a State may have a logical reason for doing something differently. For decades trucks travelling from Melbourne to Brisbane had different load capacities in each State plus a whole lot of other differences. We said that was ridiculous and eventually the governments could see the benefit of being able to carry a full load from Point A to Point B, so they came up with a concept where they would have their quartely meetings together and thrash out a National rule, then they would pick a State to be the enacting State to democratically debate the rule and pass it. When that rule was gazetted in the enacting State, all the other States would enact a mirrored rule by default, i.e. it didn't have to be debated. And so the National Heavy Vehicle Regulator was born. I recommended a staff of about 6 to assess the problem rules, settle on a common rule and then send that to the enacting State.

The enacting State chosen was Queensland, the current staff level is "more than 830" and growing.

and mostly clowns that fine truck drivers for absolute rubbish every day.

[BrendAn]

6 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

"It's a rule introduced in Victoria about 5 years ago; it means that you can't cross it. You can cross a solid white line to park if it's safe, but the other side of the yellow line is a no go zone."

 

Thanks for that . Next time I'm down Mexico way, I will look out for solid yellow lines (are there very many?)

 

Just completed a 4 hr round trip, one city one large town & many small villages - not a yellow line anywhere😈

 

Back, in my Mothers day,  when Australians numbered about 6 million,  it made sense for each geographic area (State) to make their own road rules - now at 27 million, plus a lot more interstate/international travel,  it's crazy that there is not a standard set of road rules for all Australia (role on the yellow line?????).

i am on the road most days and the only yellow lines i have seen are above the snow line . maybe i need to look closer. turbo said he introduced the national vehicle regulator to australia so he should know.

[turboplanner]

6 hours ago, BrendAn said:

i am on the road most days and the only yellow lines i have seen are above the snow line . maybe i need to look closer. turbo said he introduced the national vehicle regulator to australia so he should know.

I found this is less than 30 seconds; a little help from Victorian Legal Aid

xYellowLine.pdf

[timotyshw]

On 6/25/2024 at 5:48 AM, 440032 said:

35th most dangerous sport in the world, just two places down from JOUSTING.

Lawn Bowls is a really popular game but the most dangerous sport as well. This game is the highest death claimer worldwide. The players are deeply into the game till their last breath. They stop at nothing short of victory, in their pursuit. Those who escape death end up with bruises, torn knees, broken hips, and bone fractures. The game generates extreme stress resulting in strokes and even heart attacks.

 

 

Two guys out playing lawn bowls. One is about to take his shot when he sees a funeral procession go by.

He stops, takes his hat off and bows his head until the procession passes. He puts his hat back on and gets ready to take his shot when his partner stops him and says, "Hang on. I just gotta say I've never seen anyone do that on the green before, that was really touching."

1st guy replies, "Well, we were married for 20 years, it's the least I can do." Sometimes you need to think about whether it is worth risking for the sake of winning in such a dangerous activity. After all, it is important to play not only what you like, but also what is safe. That is why I play football and computer games. I also started reading about slot machines at  https://pokieslab1.com/new-pokies/ and different games. I would never play something that could harm me! For what reason? For health, it is always better to choose an activity that brings pleasure without threatening your physical condition.

What a horrible game. I'm shocked.

[planedriver]

On 11/07/2024 at 4:47 PM, BurnieM said:

Isn't Qld bitching about lack of money (generally) ?

How did this happen.

They are trying to somewhat fix it now. If you pay top dollar for a unit at the Gold Coast, they now hit you with a view tax.

Similar in Sydney where I have friend with a nice house overlooking the Georges River. It costs him almost $6000 a year.

Next thing we know is a fresh-air tax if we live out of town. 

[pmccarthy]

Australia had many deadly animals. The deadliest is the horse, with around 120 deaths each year from horse-related accidents.

[BurnieM]

3 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

Australia had many deadly animals. The deadliest is the horse, with around 120 deaths each year from horse-related accidents.

Not belittling any death but this is a very small number.

 

Over 20 years ago when I working for an undertaking company approx 60 people per day died in NSW alone.

 

[Red]

8 hours ago, timotyshw said:

What a horrible game. I'm shocked.

Well that second piece is just a joke

As for the claim that lawn bowls is so dangerous...if the calculation is actually true then of course it will have far more to do with the fact that it's a game played mostly by the elderly and infirmed not because of any Inherent danger it holds

 

 

 

[facthunter]

A hospital is one of the More dangerous places to be.. Riding a pushbike  on the road also. Dropping Chutists..  Nev

[BrendAn]

5 hours ago, planedriver said:

They are trying to somewhat fix it now. If you pay top dollar for a unit at the Gold Coast, they now hit you with a view tax.

Similar in Sydney where I have friend with a nice house overlooking the Georges River. It costs him almost $6000 a year.

Next thing we know is a fresh-air tax if we live out of town. 

my uncle had 2 goverment people turn up at his farmlet asking if they could measure the area of each roof catching rainwater because the gov were working out if it was viable to bring in a rainwater fee. he told them to piss off, they haven't come back yet but i suppose they will one day.

[facthunter]

Tell them it's for Flood Mitigation and Fire Fighting.  Nev

[spacesailor]

I was always told !,

Sex

Is the most deadliest pastime . 

Heart failure,  diseases.  Then try & dodge the angry  husband .

spacesailor