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Different debate really and has been covered here within the past 6mo or so. For the record, I don't agree in the case of a single.

Oh dear, many a true word said in jest!

Love it, been lifted and circulated to my joke list, which includes some older folk.

Bugger, there is never a good time for this news but it really hits home when you're settling in for festivities with your nearest n dearest. Condolences to those left behind.

Ok, I'll admit it, I'm still confused:loopy: That said, the thread elicited some first class chirps, so all's not lost.

Sharp, very sharp:laugh:!

Welcome mate, hope you enjoy the company here. Interesting combination of aircraft - best of all worlds perhaps? You'll find a number of other GA refugees here or otherwise those with one foot in either camp. You do realise that photos of your various aerial activities are mandatory? Cheers Carl

A dose of reality maybe? I haven't flown one of the newer generation Savannahs, but I'm always a bit cautious of figures that are noticeably out of line with the competition, ie a stall speed of 30mph suggests that there is a fair wing area and a relatively high lift aerofoil, neither of which are conducive to a high cruise. Bitter experience suggests that there is no such thing as a free lunch . I'd be interested to hear what local owner's experience is - the aircraft is on my shortlist for when I eventually buy an RA type. Of course it is also possible that someone put a mix of mph and kts figures into the directory. This same discussion raged after one of our members flew a fairly speedy Aussie design and was prepared to accept a claimed stall speed in the low 20's at face value. Maybe I'm just getting old; but faith is a wonderful thing in it's place, that place isn't aviation and technology however. There are accepted methods of measuring the various performance parameters and I get a wee bit narky when manufacturers deviate from them when publishing performance data, quite possibly for commercial reasons.

I suspect that demographics has a lot to do with it - ie. a lot of members either don't have rugrats or have gotten rid of them, but if we're intent on changing RA as we currently know it, why stick to 1 passenger only? No-one seems to question that limitation and yet they are (theoretically) prepared to accept that a couple of tons of AN2 is ok:loopy: I can tell you, being able to stick my wife and youngster in a J450 and operate it at 700kg would make the world of difference to my flying and is the reason I am currently casting my eye further afield, much as I don't want to get involved with the whole CASA system. If 700 or 760kg is to be classed as RA, I find it difficult to accept that an appropriate adjustment to the annual fee to cover increased insurance costs for the extra passenger(s), wouldn't address any realistic drawbacks for those who don't want the extra capacity. PS. I don't realistically expect that we'll see the above in my lifetime, if ever, but I'm equally unconvinced of the logic of "needing" more than 600kg anyway - Jabirus, Morgans, Cubs, Savannahs and Foxbats seem able to build reasonably robust aircraft at 600kg, I'd submit if others cannot, then they're doing it wrong.

Found this pearl of wisdom on ninemsn; A student pilot practising stall manoeuvres lost control and sent the plane plummeting to earth...... "The plane stopped then they tried to restart it again then it just came down," Ms Watson told AAP.

And a ditto from me, Merry Christmas to all all you who brighten up those over long gaps between real aviating. Cheers Carl A little thought to leave you with; is Santa always so merry because only he knows where all the bad girls live?

Pretty good result considering, I know I'd rather be trying to dead stick an RA type instead of a much heavier twin with only one reluctant donkey in harness. Wonder what went wrong, those machines can normally drag themselves a bit further away from the earth particularly if at less than max weight. As CFI said, that's some backyard - makes better headlines than "plane crash lands on semi rural property outside Sydney" I guess.

Lovely stuff, thanks Ian! Merry Christmas to you and yours.

...decorating - body painting

Geez, I've a fair way to run to 60 yet, but sliced bread only became widely available where I grew up, once I got to my 20's. Actually looking at my wife and son's efforts on the odd French loaf etc, I reckon that cutting a decent slice of bread has become one of those lost arts, a bit like properly carving a joint (of meat!).

Murphy Renegade at Jacobs Well

Very pretty Aeropup at Jacobs Well Fly in.

Had a quick look through the files, here are a few of mine... What a pair! T28 Trojans at Toowoomaba

That aint pretty!!

Love it, exactly what I needed mid-way through a Monday morning that has been punctuated by calls, all with the common theme that their various issues just have to be finalised "before Christmas!"

I attended the Airsport, End of Year/Wings do last evening and was saddened to hear that Greg Neale CFI is hanging up his headset and going to focus on life outside of aviation, at least in the short term. The good news from my point of view is that the school has been sold to one of the instructors and the rest of the team are staying on, so it's business as usual in that respect. I had been toying with the idea of getting back into aviation for about 2 years when I sort of accidently drove past the Boonah airfield on the way to a family picnic. Right on cue my son spotted an aircraft landing and so I wandered into the hangar and soon started speaking to Greg. I had made enquiries at several other schools, GA and RA prior to this visit; and after a series of non returned phone calls and discouraging conversations about what they couldn't do for me and how much I would need to do to get back up to speed after a 14 yr layoff, wasn't expecting much. Greg's attitude was the proverbial breath of fresh air however and I left with an information pack, an RA Aus application form and a booking for the following weekend. Greg's attitude was; come and fly, see whether you enjoy the lighter side of life and we'll discuss a program of training. Here I am 18 months later with my certificate, no intention of ever stopping flying again and most importantly having infected my family with a strain of my flying fever. My biggest problem is that for the next 6-8 years, 2 seats aren't going to be enough, so I'm going to regain my PPL and look at buying a share in an aircraft. Cheers Greg, thanks for the encouragement, advice and good conversation, on the ground and in the air. Carl

I'd forgotten about this one, so it was a bit of a surprise to find my pic lurking amongst the others in the latest Aviator:big_grin:. Some beauts among them too.

Yeah, but what is the limit? As to the Luscombes, I thought they were an almost perfect fit for RA, MAUW of 544kg according to the handbook I saw?

:man flying::man flying:phew a couple of those sequences of them crossing over ridges had me lifting my backside off the chair, trying to help them over! Fantastic photography, but man-o-man the "sudden stop" if they miscalculate would be messy.

Yeah, just ask the Princess of darkness:laugh: