Cosmick Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-29/ultralight-pilot-taken-to-hospital-after-noosa-crash/6356606 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Let's hope he pulls through 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Noosa hang glider crash: Pilot taken to hospital after ditching into the water - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) The pilot of a motorised hang glider is airlifted to hospital after crashing into water off Noosa Heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Well being spiralling and part way upside down for whatever reason there was no way this guy was not going to hit sea level in a trike. Lets hope it was a structural issue not a pilot induced one as to get it in the so called situation as described in the media report takes some bad airmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Well I was about to tear a strip off him for not flying within a safe gliding distance to the beach, now I`ll wait and see. Of course I hope he`ll be ok! Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmick Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 More detailed report .......... http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/ultra-light-plane-crashes-water-noosa/2590012/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Upside down in a trike? Scary! Dunno how that could be survivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 So how do you get upside down in a Trike ??........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Either a structural issue Maj or being an idiot, not much else to choose from. There are a few scenarios that could put you in that, too slow in a tight turn and the inner wing stalling and tucking you under, negative g manoeuvres, and whip stalls which usually results in a tumble and certain death, well actually all 3 usually result in death, there would be some more out there but can't think of them at the moment. Alf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andys@coffs Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 This is one way.......and while I add it here Im very quick to advise I have no knowledge of the Noosa accident and no knowledge if this is even related, its just to answer the question asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 This is one way.......and while I add it here Im very quick to advise I have no knowledge of the Noosa accident and no knowledge if this is even related, its just to answer the question asked. Andy, the dreaded "hey watch me"................kill myself trick Apparently from what I have been told about the person who died in my old trike last year, he was low & slow and increased his angle of bank more than 60deg most likely and stalled the inner wing while turning final. Trikes are not supposed to climb or descend at angles greater than 45 deg & no angles of bank exceeding 60 deg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Andy, the dreaded "hey watch me"................kill myself trickApparently from what I have been told about the person who died in my old trike last year, he was low & slow and increased his angle of bank more than 60deg most likely and stalled the inner wing while turning final. Trikes are not supposed to climb or descend at angles greater than 45 deg & no angles of bank exceeding 60 deg I think you'll find the certification limits are 30 degrees pitch up or down and 60 degrees angle of bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Been a couple of years Lauire so it may well be 30 for the pitch, some how I was thinking it was 45 but there you go I may be wrong . Just checked Laurie in the Airborne manual, pitch is not to exceed 45 deg up or down, angle of bank is 60 deg.. Alf 1 nil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 This is one way.......and while I add it here Im very quick to advise I have no knowledge of the Noosa accident and no knowledge if this is even related, its just to answer the question asked. That looks like it hurt !........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rankamateur Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Alf 1 nil Not another pissing competition!!! Remember to piss with the wind if you want to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Not another pissing competition!!!Remember to piss with the wind if you want to win. Actually rankamature, I know Laurie quite well, he is a local in my area so just a little in house joke mate. You just remember to land in to the wind seen as though your a rankamature 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscotthendry Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I probably shouldn't say anything about the cause of this accident as it will likely be the subject of an investigation. What I think I can say is that the guy in the other trike was my trike instructor and he was NOT flying WITH this guy as the media reports said. My instrucor was in the same vicinity and made a radio call to the guy to alert him of his presence. The guy that crashed is the same guy that put this same trike into lake weyba a few months ago and this was the first flight of the trike since it was rebuilt. I think I can say that my instructor indicated to me that he thought it was not a case of structural failure, but that will probably be checked out by any investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andys@coffs Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Scott was it RAAus or HGFA registered......I haven't seen anything from RAAus so presume the latter Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 HGFA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downunder Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Slightly off topic but would anyone have an idea of the proportions of trike regos, RAA Vs HGFA? I was told that some years ago there was a substantial shift to RAA .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andys@coffs Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 so as a trike pilot what are you most likely to try next...a 3 axis aircraft or hang glider? I reckon more of the former less of the later which makes RAAus a much better option in terms on controlling your association related costs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscotthendry Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well, that was certainly the case for me. Also, when I translated across from HGFA, they were going through the political horrors similar to what RA-Aus has just been through. When I moved to RAA, it was partly to get away from the politics, but then it was like Deja Vu. But I agree with the idea that people moving from a trike, are probably more likely to go 3 axis, witness myself and Alf. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 But I agree with the idea that people moving from a trike, are probably more likely to go 3 axis, witness myself and Alf. I am never getting in a trike again they don't look right to me and the risk of some idiot causing a tuck and tumble with you in it does not bear thinking about. I personally have seen a trike instructor doing steep turns, what appeared to be loops except they were slightly off to one side ( not quite right over the top) but certainly breaking all the rules mentioned in earlier posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I am never getting in a trike again they don't look right to me and the risk of some idiot causing a tuck and tumble with you in it does not bear thinking about. I personally have seen a trike instructor doing steep turns, what appeared to be loops except they were slightly off to one side ( not quite right over the top) but certainly breaking all the rules mentioned in earlier posts. How much time do you have as pic in trikes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 How much time do you have as pic in trikes? Agree with Keenaviator, are you sure you can comment...until the cause is identified then how can you do anything but assume. Trikes are as safe as the next aircraft in the hands of competent pilots. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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