turboplanner Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Well we're really down to the ratbag level now aren't we. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Well we're really down to the ratbag level now aren't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Which alerted you to the conversation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Which alerted you to the conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ornis Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Oscar, is this what you are talking about? I Learned About Flying From That, page 8, VECTOR, Jun/Jul https://www.caa.govt.nz/safety_info/vector.htm Style might be a bit pithy and to the point for you. I'll pop back in a couple of months after another 100 emails from Jabiru keeping me up to date with ... well, nothing! Jabiru Engines: Promise you the Earth and keep you Grounded ~ Ornis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ornis Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Oscar, is this what you are talking about? I Learned About Flying From That, page 8, VECTOR, Jun/Jul https://www.caa.govt.nz/safety_info/vector.htm Style might be a bit pithy and to the point for you. I'll pop back in a couple of months after another 100 emails from Jabiru keeping me up to date with ... well, nothing! Jabiru Engines: Promise you the Earth and keep you Grounded ~ Ornis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ornis......ol chum, me....and a whole lot of other jab owners, fly all over this country. Guess what.......99.6% of the time, the only other rec flyer we bump into is ......another JAB.............that's right...99.6%.............so shove your...( edited )Service them right, fly em right............they just purr. And that's another fact. ( geez......i've said all this before...as others have ) Ok....back to you......what machine do you yourself putt about in. ( curious ) russ Too right. My recent little 2 week flight. Laurie (by the way, is Ornis the fellow who drowned his poor Jabbie on a beach in NZ?) [ATTACH=full]37335[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]37335[/ATTACH] 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ornis......ol chum, me....and a whole lot of other jab owners, fly all over this country. Guess what.......99.6% of the time, the only other rec flyer we bump into is ......another JAB.............that's right...99.6%.............so shove your...( edited )Service them right, fly em right............they just purr. And that's another fact. ( geez......i've said all this before...as others have ) Ok....back to you......what machine do you yourself putt about in. ( curious ) russ Too right. My recent little 2 week flight. Laurie (by the way, is Ornis the fellow who drowned his poor Jabbie on a beach in NZ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Too right. My recent little 2 week flight. Laurie (by the way, is Ornis the fellow who drowned his poor Jabbie on a beach in NZ?)[ATTACH=full]37335[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]37335[/ATTACH] It was great to meet you at Heck field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Too right. My recent little 2 week flight. Laurie (by the way, is Ornis the fellow who drowned his poor Jabbie on a beach in NZ?)[ATTACH=full]37335[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]37335[/ATTACH] It was great to meet you at Heck field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It was great to meet you at Heck field. Same here mate. I didn't put one and one together until later on the forum as to who you were - nice bike mate. You were right; it's hard to judge a person's character on a forum. Laurie. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It was great to meet you at Heck field. Same here mate. I didn't put one and one together until later on the forum as to who you were - nice bike mate. You were right; it's hard to judge a person's character on a forum. Laurie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 there is no jun/july Vector. Getting detail straight is nor your strong point ornis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 there is no jun/july Vector. Getting detail straight is nor your strong point ornis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_richo Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 July\August 15 issue. Some good points to ponder, also one wonders why there was a passenger aboard for the beach take-off. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tarran Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awEY-ISeMEk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 ouch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microman Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well it was a Jabiru - what would you expect- a short take-off? Most of them I've seen seem to need a mile of runway before they manage to slip the surly bonds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianboag Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It is a J200. Not a 701, but not too shabby on takeoff. I used to own one. The relevant "Jabiru failure" here is their previous engine which sucked a valve and threw a rod at 8000 ft on a cross country. The later misfortune on the beach is more fun to read about but really has no relevance to what this thread is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Microman, I hereby bet you that my Jabiru can take off in less than 300 metres. Are you up for a grand ? The loser donates $1000 to this site. The winner gets a warm glow from being right. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awEY-ISeMEk This is an old video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaba-who Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Did some trials of mine - 200 m at max weight at Sea level and temp 25 degrees 120 m with just me half fuel and airfield altitude 2500. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well it was a Jabiru - what would you expect- a short take-off? Most of them I've seen seem to need a mile of runway before they manage to slip the surly bonds! Go look at the figures - which are the result of certified/ certificated testing. J230-D: ground roll 226 metres (0.14 miles) , to 50 feet: 356 metres. That is at MTOW, at an ICAO 'standard' ambient temp and zero AMSL. Achieved by professional test pilots to CASA standards, for the POH. Before you start bagging out an aircraft, perhaps you should look at what its real performance figures - under certification/certifying conditions - are. The POH figures are not just drawn out of a hat - they are legally defensible results drawn from testing under specified conditions by approved test pilots. The performance you claim you have observed indicates a complete lack of understanding of how to fly the aircraft properly. I suggest your commentary applies to the inadequacies of the pilots you have observed rather than the aircraft they have been piloting. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjr Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Theres lots of different Jabirus too Short and long wing, 4 and 6 cyl Some take more than others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Ok...........my 160, off the deck less than 200m, any time you want...........( they're short winged ) Landing to stop..........still working on that. ( any tricks appreciated ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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