Love to fly Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The other interesting thing in all this is the maint of the aircraft you built...you need the L1 version but for SAAA this means you need to do thier course which seems to be only done once a year and only in one spot in OZ...the last one was at narromine this year and no date or place for the next one...so dont hold your breath while we wait Perhaps check this with the SAAA Office as there has definitely been more than one this year. Narromine, at least one in Melbourne and pretty sure there was one in Temora. May well have been others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I will check it out..I looked and that was all I could find for the maint course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love to fly Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I will check it out..I looked and that was all I could find for the maint course On the SAAA website now MPC Brisbane QLD – 1st & 2nd February 2020 Maintenance Procedure Course Tickets – Brisbane QLD Dates: Saturday 1st February & Sunday 2nd February 2020 Venue: To Be Confirmed Time: 8.30am to 4.00pm each day (approx) This course is available to those wishing to complete the course for the first time (initial) and those who wish to refresh their knowledge and be updated on, for example, any changes to legislation. The syllabus is, however, the same for both the initial and refresher attendees and so all are invited to attend the same course events. Tea/coffee will be provided. Lunch not included. Please bring note pad with pen & pencil. The course Trainer will make contact via email approximately one week prior to the course commencement date. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Excellent..thought I was going to have to fly somewhere in OZ for a couple of days.. I looked about 2 weeks ago and they had nothing up for 2020 yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The Ycab clubhouse would be a good venue ? The local SAAA chapter has the meetings there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love to fly Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The Ycab clubhouse would be a good venue ? The local SAAA chapter has the meetings there Maybe let them know. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Yes sending Chris the local guy a here right now actually 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slb Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 The HGFA (now SAFA) also hold maintenance courses which I believe are recognised by RAAus for L1. They have been mentioned in these Forums previously and in some of the SportPilot past issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Currently the S21 has to be built in the experimental category so need MPC to do the maint. I have a L1 for RAA but that doesnt homologate to Experimental in VH. If the 760kg comes in then I will most likely drop it into RAA but I believe in what I read you will need MPC anyway I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT5224 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Not Increased MTOW is pointless without related increase in stall speed. Wouldn't entirely agree In addition to the 150 series aircraft there will be a bunch of Bush type STOL aircraft, such as Super Cubs, my own Rebel and a couple of other robust old-school taildraggers that fit easily in under existing stall speeds. No, thats not all aircraft in the 600-760 weight class, but some. Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 You are correct and other planes might be able to be built of simpler construction and carry a useful load, with the higher weight and stay well below the 45 knot "flapped "stall speed. There are SOME it won't help as they are up against the 45 knot stall at current weight, so they would require modification s that may not be possible in a practical sense. Usually and extra wing panel will do the job . Some types already offer wingspan variants . Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjr Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Don't think you can modify, have to be certificated. Experimentals stay as they are CASA indicated there are a few hundred aircraft that can fit into new catagory Appears targeted to GA aircraft dropping into RAA regs rather than RAA moving heavier - hence the original comment for this thread and the thought why are RAA spending energy on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 One could expect new parameters will attract different designs, IN THE FUTURE. It's not just what's there now that must be considered. For some it is and I understand that. No one is worse off (If we are lucky). but who actually knows what's been traded away or what the CASA really is aiming for..? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenlsa Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 You are correct and other planes might be able to be built of simpler construction and carry a useful load, with the higher weight and stay well below the 45 knot "flapped "stall speed. There are SOME it won't help as they are up against the 45 knot stall at current weight, so they would require modification s that may not be possible in a practical sense. Usually and extra wing panel will do the job . Some types already offer wingspan variants . Nev Don't think you can modify, have to be certificated. Experimentals stay as they are CASA indicated there are a few hundred aircraft that can fit into new catagory Appears targeted to GA aircraft dropping into RAA regs rather than RAA moving heavier - hence the original comment for this thread and the thought why are RAA spending energy on it. My Colt will need either a Svenn system wing extension that is a bit exxy ,but looks good compared to some others, or a Micro VG kit that will bring it to 43/44 kts. Both have STCs but it seems a little silly to have a Super Cub 'in' but my wee Colt 'out'. Looks like VGs @ $1k are the go if I have to. Ken 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetjr Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Not sure how the system will let you claim reduced stall speed? Currently its claimed by owner/builder or manufacturer in RAA and it isn't as critically important in VH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 It should be reasonably close to what's claimed (as a point of honesty) and it becomes fairly obvious when you are flying planes that don't stall as slow as claimed. If you are an inexperienced pilot you might just have a "what happened there" moment? as you get out of the wreck or bent U/C. Weight will affect the stall speed of any given plane, We know that, also sloppy fabric, being nose heavy etc. . Several makers offer different wingspan models Smaller wings go faster and are a bit slow to get off the ground on a hot day. While determining the demonstrated stall speed might be a challenge It's not insurmountable and the principles of improving stall speeds are well understood. Slotted flaps are much more effective than simple ones which are more of an air dam. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Is the general opinion that there is a conflict of interest or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blinky Bill Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 20. What is the likelihood that you would pay for an aircraft maintenance logbook review service if it was available? 22. What document do you use for recording the daily inspection, hours, landings and upcoming maintenance These questions come straight from the latest RAAUS Survey.So who is to benefit from the newly developed electronic log book,is it the same person who seems to be using RAAUS to promote his new aircraft dealership.Is this thus not a contrived use of position for personal benefit ie. a conflict of interest.Yes I believe there is a conflict of interest.But whats the point of our whingeing as we have lost control of RAAUS as a member organisation through apathy and a decision made on the basis of a vote where ten percent allowed this to happen.Cheers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I did find question 20 a bit perplexing. Not something I would be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I answered that I don’t own an RAA aircraft so it must have skipped those questions, I didn’t see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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